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Sick of close passes from drivers? Create your own ‘laser’ cycle lane; Urška Žigart goes agonisingly close at Tour de Suisse… only to be referred to as “Pogačar’s girlfriend” by Belgian newspaper; Cycle lane double parking + more on the live blog

It’s Tuesday and Ryan Mallon’s back with all the latest cycling news, views, and nonsense on the live blog
20 June 2023, 08:05
Laser Lane (Ibrahim Cam, Brunel University London)
Sick of close passes from drivers? Create your own ‘laser’ cycle lane: Student creates touch-activated bike lights and ‘laser lane’ to “increase the visibility of cyclists and to improve communication with other road users”

Now, I’m not sure if you’ve noticed over the years, but here at road.cc we tend to talk a lot about close passes committed on cyclists by distracted, poor, or just downright dangerous drivers (believe it or not, there’s actually a whole series dedicated to this very thing. Who knew?).

And we also chat quite a bit on the live blog about the need to introduce more, and better, cycling infrastructure to protect riders from this kind of perilous driving.

> "Paint isn't infrastructure": Are unsegregated bike lanes more dangerous for cyclists?

Anyway, an undergraduate student at Brunel University London reckons he’s come up with the perfect solution to these classic road.cc problems: by creating the ‘laser cycle lane’.

Laser Lane (Ibrahim Cam, Brunel University London)

Laser Lane, the (admittedly not very original) brainchild of 23-year-old Ibrahim Cam, a final-year Industrial Design and Technology student at Brunel, allows a cyclist – through the touch of a button on their handlebars – to create two beams of light on the road 1.5 metres either side of them, indicating to passing drivers the recommended overtaking distance as noted in the Highway Code.

Cam’s product, which was unveiled at last week’s Made in Brunel exhibition, showcasing gadgets and devices designed by final year students at the university’s Design School, also features touch-activated indicators, as well as front and rear lights.

Laser Lane (Ibrahim Cam, Brunel University London)

“The laser lane is intended to increase the visibility of cyclists and to improve communication with other road users,” the student says.

“The capacitive touch-activated front and rear lights are on the end of the handlebars so drivers can tell the true length of a bike, and the laser will show motorists the clearance that they must give cyclists.

“The front lights are white and the rear lights are red, so drivers can tell if they are looking at the front or the rear of a bike. There is also a capacitive touch-activated indicator, so cyclists can clearly indicate when they are turning a corner.”

> Almost all drivers agree that close passes of cyclists put lives at risk

Cam says he was inspired to design Laser Lane after he started driving last year, when he says he struggled with overtaking and interacting with cyclists on the roads.

“I tried to give cyclists as much space as possible, but seeing how other drivers interacted with them made me think about it more,” he said. “I saw drivers overtaking cyclists around corners and not giving them the 1.5m that’s required. Many drivers don’t respect the 1.5m rule, and the wind of a vehicle alone can be detrimental.”

Laser Lane (Ibrahim Cam, Brunel University London)

Though he recognises dedicated infrastructure is the way forward, Cam believes that making cyclists more visible to motorists – which he believes will aid drivers’ “judgements” – will improve their safety and perhaps encourage more people to get on their bikes.

“Drivers have air bags, seat belts, and metal between them and the roads, but cyclists have nothing. They just have their bike, their helmet, and the tarmac beneath them,” Ibrahim notes.

“There have been times when I haven’t seen cyclists in my blind spot until the last moment, and my heart sinks when I realise what could have happened.

“By helping to give drivers better judgements, cyclists will feel safer on the roads.

“Less experienced cyclists might not feel confident enough to cycle at the moment, but if they feel safer on the roads, then they will cycle.”

“Getting more people to cycle will reduce their carbon footprint and result in less congestion on the roads,” he adds. “The increase in fuel prices is making driving economically unsustainable for people, and cycling could now be an option for them.”

> “It’s problematic to have a value like that”: Researcher calls for better guidelines than “just 1.5 metres” for passing cyclists

What do you reckon? Could Laser Lane provide a useful reminder to motorists to pass safely when there’s no cycling infra nearby? Or would a red line on the road be ignored just as readily as the Highway Code?

I sense a new slogan coming on: Laser beams are not protection…

20 June 2023, 15:05
Tour de Suisse: SD Worx’s Back in Fisher-Black, as Marlen Reusser secures overall win at home tour

Well, that didn’t take long.

After their 20-race undefeated streak came to an abrupt halt yesterday, SD Worx didn’t waste any time in getting back to winning ways at the Tour de Suisse, as New Zealander Niamh Fisher-Black outsprinted Kasia Niewiadoma to take her first career World Tour stage win and teammate Marlen Reusser secured the overall victory at her home race.

Fisher-Black latched onto the rampaging Niewiadoma’s attack with 50km to go, sitting on the Canyon-Sram rider’s wheel as she roared into the virtual race lead.

However, a concerted chase from Vollering and Elisa Longo Borghini (whose third place on the podium was also threatened by the attacking Polish rider) reduced the gap to Niewiadoma. And with 25km to go, Reusser launched her own solo move, which in the end proved enough to comfortably hold onto the yellow jersey for a popular GC win (while Vollering followed up her domestique efforts by winning the group sprint for fourth, ensuring SD Worx a by now emblematic 1-2-4 on the day).

It would be double disappointment as well for Niewiadoma, whose brave long-range attack fell short of securing a place on the podium and served only to tee up the 22-year-old Fisher-Black for a breakthrough career win.

And who knows, maybe Fisher-Black and Reusser’s wins will mark the start of another long unbeaten spell?

20 June 2023, 14:11
“I’m not a vigilante cyclist!”

Looks like the Spectator’s article from this morning on “lycra-clad informants” with cameras has prompted something of a reverse cycling Spartacus on social media…

20 June 2023, 13:51
Uno-X announce exciting Tour de France lineup

There may still be 11 days to go until the biggest race of the year, but it looks like the squad selections are starting to trickle out…

Johannessen, Tiller, Wærenskjold, and the grand old man Kristoff – based on that impressive group, could Cycling Twitter’s favourite team nab a very popular stage win next month?

20 June 2023, 13:24
Ineos Grenadiers youngster Ben Tulett set to leave team at end of the season, according to reports

Promising 21-year-old Ben Tulett could be on his way out of the Ineos Grenadiers after just two years with the British team, reports in Italy have suggested.

According to La Gazzetta dello Sport journalist Ciro Scognamiglio, Sevenoaks-born Tulett – who turned pro with Alpecin-Fenix as an 18-year-old in 2020 before joining Ineos last year – could be set to join rivals Jumbo-Visma in 2024.

UAE Team Emirates were also rumoured to be in contention to sign the former junior cyclocross world champion, but have denied any links. Bora-Hansgrohe could also be a possible destination if Tulett doesn’t pen an extension with Ineos.

Ben Tulett, 2023 Tour de Suisse (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Tulett in action at last week’s Tour de Suisse (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

After some steadily improving results since joining Ineos at the start of 2022, the 21-year-old enjoyed a breakthrough May, taking second overall at the Tour de Hongrie before winning the stage and the GC at the Tour of Norway two weeks later. At last year’s Giro d’Italia, the only grand tour of his young career so far, Tulett finished fifth on both time trial stages and secured a top 40 place overall while working for Richard Carapaz’s pink jersey bid.

Would Ineos be foolish to let Tulett – one of its precocious young stage racers – go, especially to a Tour de France rival, as the British team aims to rebuild for the future?

20 June 2023, 12:56
Swapfiets launches ‘bike amnesty’: Swap your old, unwanted bike for a first-month-free pedal or e-bike subscription
Swapfiets warehouse_

According to the Dutch bike membership company, bikes can be brought into Swapfiets’ stores in London, Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, and Copenhagen, between June 3 and July 3, where they will then be recycled and turned into community bike racks.

Swapfiets’ co-founder and director of sustainability Richard Burger said the brand wants to “encourage Londoners to recycle their old bikes, and help declutter London’s local communities”.

Read more here: > Swapfiets launches ‘bike amnesty’

20 June 2023, 12:08
SD WORX  2023
SD Worx’s frankly ridiculous 20 race winning streak finally comes to an end

As I noted earlier today on the blog, SD Worx’s phenomenal, unprecedented, frankly ridiculous winning streak – which lasted for 20 races and over 43 days – finally came to a halt on stage three of the Tour de Suisse yesterday, when Blanka Vas could only (only, I say) manage fourth in the sprint behind Eleonora Gasparrini in Ebnat-Kappel.

Yep, that’s right – to find the last time SD Worx started a bike race and one of their riders didn’t win, you have to go all the way back to 7 May, when world champion Annemiek van Vleuten controversially secured the overall win at the Vuelta Femenina by just nine seconds from Demi Vollering (who, ironically, won that day’s stage to Lagos de Covadonga).

Strade Bianche Womens Race 2023 podium: Demi Vollering Lotte Kopecky and Kristen Faulkner (Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

Vollering and Kopecky on the Strade Biance podium after another SD Worx one-two ((Alex Whitehead/SWpix.com)

Since then, the Dutch team have simply been untouchable, winning every stage and the GC of the Tour of the Basque Country, the Vuelta a Burgos, the six-stage Lotto Thüringen Ladies Tour, as well as the first two stages of the Tour de Suisse and two one-day races, the Veenendaal-Veenendaal Classic and Dwars door het Hageland.

During that remarkable run, Demi Vollering (five wins), Lotte Kopecky (four), Marlen Reusser (three), Lorena Wiebes (three), Blanka Vas, Lonneke Uneken, Mischa Bredewold, Barbara Guarischi, and fittingly, a team time trial success all contributed to the streak.

In a sport where 150-odd riders and 20 teams line up the start, and where the slightest detail can decide the result, a run like that is extremely rare, even from the most dominant teams.

Demi Vollering wins Liège-Bastogne-Liège 2023 (image via Twitter)

And it’s not like SD Worx only kicked on at the Vuelta either. The Dutch team dominated the spring, securing nearly all the big classics – Omloop Het Nieuwsblad, Strade Bianche, Gent-Wevelgem, the Tour of Flanders, Amstel Gold, Flèche Wallonne, Liège-Bastogne-Liège, and many more besides – courtesy of the world-class quartet of Vollering, Kopecky, Wiebes, and Reusser.

With the Giro Donne and the Tour de France coming up, don’t rule out SD Worx adding to their 35 wins already this year. Although, for entertainment’s sake, let’s hope they don’t put together another month-long winning run…

20 June 2023, 11:36
Fesshole x Ned Boulting: Dream commuting commentary

Right, Carlton, over to you now… 

20 June 2023, 11:07
Laser cycle lanes, Dr Evil edition

Now that would certainly be one way of ensuring drivers stay 1.5 metres away when overtaking cyclists – I’m just not sure how successful the application for research funding would be…

20 June 2023, 10:39
Phone drivers (Twitter/@DeaconThurston)
“Mike van Erp is out to get you”: Spectator article tells drivers to beware of the rise of the “vigilante cyclist” and “lycra-clad informant”

They’re about a decade late to the party, I suppose, but this morning the Spectator turned its attention to camera cyclists who, apparently, are “out to get you” (“you” in this instance referring to law-breaking drivers, of course).

The article, written by the paper’s assistant features editor Robert Jackman, follows yesterday’s, ahem, interesting take on 15-minute cities and class politics from the New Statesman, and another Spectator columnist’s self-congratulatory stance on Italy’s “crackdown” on cyclists last week.

> "New Strawman": Op-ed labels 15-minute cities as a "working-class nightmare", questions "how will ambulances get to victims if cars are banned"

Jackman’s piece, it must be said, is rather more balanced than those two rants, and features quotes from Cycling Mikey (who else?) and other camera-using cycling activists regularly reporting law-breaking drivers. He even admits that drivers frequently break the law, and that the use of mobile phones behind the wheel can be as fatal as drink driving.

However, there are still classic anti-cycling bingo references to “vigilante cyclists” and “lycra-clad informants” (and no reference whatsoever to motorists with dashcams), as well as philosophical mutterings about whether camera cyclists should be so “enthusiastic” about “shaming” drivers breaking the law.

> Britain’s Got Terrible Cycling Takes: Amanda Holden says cyclists with cameras are “asking for trouble” 

“I first became aware of the phenomenon of lycra-clad informants some months ago when an acquaintance was fined for using her mobile phone at a red light,” Jackman writes.

“She was told that the footage had been recorded by a cyclist who reported her to the police. Legally, she was bang to rights. But it made me think: how many motorists are aware they could end up reported by their fellow road users – and with such enthusiasm?”

> “People need to see justice being done”: CyclingMikey says camera cyclists suffer online abuse because some motorists “feel they have the right to drive how they want”

On the subject of phone use, he offers this contradictory thought: “Around two cyclists a week are killed on British roads and a further 84 are seriously injured, with distracted drivers being the most common cause of death. But while someone using their phone in stationary traffic may well be distracted, are they really risking lives?”

“Awareness is one thing, but is public shaming really justifiable?” he later asks. “I’m not so sure. Some of the videos seem to blur the line when it comes to shaming. In April, one cyclist posted footage of a driver, who was wearing a wedding ring, browsing an escort website. Can the cycling reporters really defend that?”

> Not giving up — why a camera cyclist driven off social media by abuse won’t stop reporting dangerous motorists

And his last take on this “thriving subculture”? “Bad drivers be warned, then. That careless scroll might prove more costly than you think – and potentially in more ways than one.”

20 June 2023, 10:07
Climate charity Justdiggit pledges to regreen dedicated area in honour of Gino Mäder

Nice touch here from the regreening charity, for whom the late Swiss rider raised thousands of pounds while raising awareness of the need to combat climate change.

“That Gino Mäder touched many hearts and minds all over the world with his actions, became apparent to us over the last few days. We received over 700 donations that were done out of his name from fans honouring his legacy,” Justdiggit announced yesterday.

“We’re deeply moved by the immense support our organisation received from the cycling community following the tragic passing of Gino. To honour him, we’ll regreen a dedicated area at a later-to-be-announced location with your heartfelt donations.”

> “I wanted to win for Gino, everyone today raced for him”: Mattias Skjelmose dedicates Tour de Suisse victory to “wonderful” Gino Mäder

20 June 2023, 09:39
Why don’t cyclists use the cycle lanes? Part 2,491

Some classic cycle lane double parking from Belfast here, the land that active travel forgot (or should that be the land that forgot active travel?)…

20 June 2023, 08:49
“Thank goodness she’s dating a famous cyclist, otherwise how on earth would anyone have identified her?” Urška Žigart goes agonisingly close at Tour de Suisse… only to be referred to as “Pogačar’s girlfriend” by Belgian newspaper

75 metres… 75 metres was all that separated Jayco AlUla’s Urška Žigart from a maiden WorldTour win at the Tour de Suisse yesterday.

The 26-year-old Slovenian attacked her breakaway companions with just under 13km to go and looked set to pull off a stunning solo victory, only to be heartbreakingly swamped by the peloton within touching distance of the finish in Ebnat-Kappel, as UAE Team ADQ’s promising Italian sprinter Eleonora Gasparrini took her own breakthrough win after a couple of years of knocking on the door in the bunch kicks.

(Gasparrini’s victorious sprint also ended SD Worx’s incredible, and slightly bonkers, month-and-a-half-long winning streak, which we’ll chat about later today on the blog.)

So, how did Het Nieuwsblad – you know, the Flemish newspaper that actually runs its own men’s and women’s spring classic – report on this dramatic finish at the Tour de Suisse?

By referring to Žigart simply as “Pogačar’s girlfriend” in their headline, of course:

Het Nieuwsblad Urška Žigart headline

Sigh…

Understandably, removing Žigart’s name entirely from their headline about her racing exploits prompted something of a backlash on Twitter:

I for one can’t wait for Het Nieuwsblad’s “Žigart’s boyfriend wins Tour de France” headline next month…

And if you needed a heartwarming antidote for the weird, sexist headlines in the Belgian press, Slovenia’s cycling power couple were on hand to provide it:

Urška Žigart, Tadej Pogačar Instagram

After obtaining a PhD, lecturing, and hosting a history podcast at Queen’s University Belfast, Ryan joined road.cc in December 2021 and since then has kept the site’s readers and listeners informed and enthralled (well at least occasionally) on news, the live blog, and the road.cc Podcast. After boarding a wrong bus at the world championships and ruining a good pair of jeans at the cyclocross, he now serves as road.cc’s senior news writer. Before his foray into cycling journalism, he wallowed in the equally pitiless world of academia, where he wrote a book about Victorian politics and droned on about cycling and bikes to classes of bored students (while taking every chance he could get to talk about cycling in print or on the radio). He can be found riding his bike very slowly around the narrow, scenic country lanes of Co. Down.

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RoubaixCube | 1 year ago
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If I remember correctly... Lezyne came out with a product called 'Laser Drive' in 2017 that was a rear light that fired lasers at the ground that marked out your own cycle lane. Not really done much good has it? Its more of a gimmick than anything else.

Afaik the Lezyne product was refreshed in 2021. If people are going to be dickheads while out on the road. lasers on the ground isnt going to be much of a deterent... UK law and Justice system isnt much of a deterrent either for that matter.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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One to follow on the sentence

A 30-year-old Suffolk man who sent a text immediately before he was involved in a fatal collision with a cyclist in Bury St Edmunds is facing a jail sentence after being convicted of causing death by dangerous driving.

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23601868.newmarket-man-alexander-martin-guil...

"Cross-examined by Mr Carter, Martin said he didn’t believe the time that records showed he had sent the message was the time at which he had composed it and pressed send."

"He also told the jury that he hadn’t seen Mr Lawrence before he collided with him as he had been “completely blinded” by the glare from the sun."

BUT

"After his arrest, Martin claimed that Mr Lawrence had hit the kerb or for some reason had swerved in front of him immediately before the collision."

and

"a windscreen wiper on the driver’s side of the Qashqai was broken and the windscreen had been “extremely” dirty."

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/23587045.newmarket-driver-allegedly-whatsapp...

Thankfully the jury didn't believe his lies.

 

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HoarseMann replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Hirsute wrote:

One to follow on the sentence

New sentencing guidelines come into force on the 1st July. Not sure whether the effective date is the date of the offence, or date of sentencing.

https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/offences/crown-court/item/causing-d...

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Oldfatgit | 1 year ago
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Laser lane .. is there something that prevents the devices from being angled to shine in someone's eye?
Say ... an aggressive driver who tries to bully past on pinch points?

What has been done to reduce the risk to other road users from poorly installed and angled devices?

And ... my fish needs a bicycle...

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Tom_77 | 1 year ago
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I've got a Dashcam in my car, does that make me a Vigilante Driver?

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quiff replied to Tom_77 | 1 year ago
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Only if you also report things it captures, apparently. 

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Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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"Oooh, if you are speeding be careful because some lycra clad loony might report you."

How about being careful so you don't kill a human being you sociopath?

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DaiHoss replied to Patrick9-32 | 1 year ago
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But drivers are always 100% totally law abiding, and if they do accidentally bend the rules then they'll never ever do it again, as this blog from confused.com shows 
https://www.confused.com/car-insurance/guides/top-motoring-convictions 

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eburtthebike replied to DaiHoss | 1 year ago
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DaiHoss wrote:

But drivers are always 100% totally law abiding, and if they do accidentally bend the rules then they'll never ever do it again, as this blog from confused.com shows 
https://www.confused.com/car-insurance/guides/top-motoring-convictions 

A sobering report, including:

"It seems fines aren’t an effective deterrent for committing a motoring offence. Over 1 in 3 (31%) convicted drivers admit to reoffending. And more than 3 in 5 (63%) offenders said they weren’t put off committing offences again after being convicted."

I'm sure the comprehensive review of road laws will sort it.

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brooksby | 1 year ago
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bikes can be brought into Swapfiets’ stores in London, Amsterdam, Paris, Berlin, and Copenhagen, between June 3 and July 3, where they will then be recycled and turned into community bike racks.

 I'm sure that there are better uses for "old bikes"...

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quiff replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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"You give us your bike, and we'll give you ours... for one month"

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marmotte27 replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Swapfiets are a company, so they're not actually about cycling. They're about profits.

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Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Helen Baron: "Excellent but now can I please have actual, metal-melting, paint-annihilating, Austin powers lasers."

Seconded here, Helen.

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PpPete replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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I keep thinking a jersey that is very visibly sponsored by Nitromors and Super-Soaker might increase the passing distance well beyond the legal minimum.

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to PpPete | 1 year ago
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 Radioactive Waste Removers jersey?

Or a small canister on the back of a bike labelled "Nuclear Materials - Biohazard"

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Patrick9-32 replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Actual fricking sharks with actual fricking laser beams attached to their heads? Is that too much to ask?

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lonpfrb replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Matthew Acton-Varian wrote:

Helen Baron: "Excellent but now can I please have actual, metal-melting, paint-annihilating, Austin powers lasers."

Seconded here, Helen.

The US military have spent many millions of tax payers money on directed energy weapons and power upgrades to their fleet of ships and aircraft to enable them.
Sadly no ebike can run a KW never mind a MW power system so we will have to do without for the foreseeable.

The Cree company has been successful at increasing the light output of LEDs to painful lumen levels however the law is that road users must not carelessly dazzle one another. Ride safe.

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wtjs replied to lonpfrb | 1 year ago
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The Cree company has been successful at increasing the light output of LEDs to painful lumen levels

Those of us who had to suffer those heavy Ever Ready lights which bounced out of the bracket and didn't show the road ahead thank the LED industry!

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Sriracha replied to lonpfrb | 1 year ago
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lonpfrb wrote:

Sadly no ebike can run a KW never mind a MW power system

depends for, how long? For a few nanoseconds, why not?

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redimp | 1 year ago
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As anything we do, and that certain motorists think we should do, to increase our safety and visibility, dehumanises us in the eyes of those motorists, I think we should all pass on creating our own cycle lanes

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lonpfrb replied to redimp | 1 year ago
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redimp wrote:

As anything we do, and that certain motorists think we should do, to increase our safety and visibility, dehumanises us in the eyes of those motorists, I think we should all pass on creating our own cycle lanes

Clearly infrastructure is neither quick nor affordable so Attitude and Behaviour must change.

Rather the change must be enforced starting with the mainstream and social media that must be compliant with the Road Collision Reporting Guidelines http://www.rc-rg.com by law. The Department of Culture Media and Sports to enforce protected status for vulnerable road users who travel on foot, by bike or horse. Only then will Active Travel be a meaningful change of the nations health and fitness.

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Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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Articles like that from the Spectatore might as well have the headline: "Watch out, ways to break the law in peace!"

 

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brooksby replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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In April, one cyclist posted footage of a driver, who was wearing a wedding ring, browsing an escort website. Can the cycling reporters really defend that?”

I'm sure that they have a citation for that, and aren't just making it up...? 

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Hirsute replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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Nope, I saw the video. If it was 4k camera, then it would be very clear.
No idea where on twitter, could be a retweet.

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AlsoSomniloquism replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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I suspect the reason it was filmed was because the driver was browsing the website on a phone / tablet whilst sitting in a queue in his car. So yes, I can justify why they were filmed Mr Reporter Man. 

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Matthew Acton-Varian replied to Matthew Acton-Varian | 1 year ago
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I can add to the "I'm Not A Vigilante Cyclist" response thread.

But four years ago I got hit by a car which ran a red light. I only had minor injuries and I only had slightly bent wheels.

The driver was apologetic and sincere and admitted fault when he replayed his own dashcam footage. There was no evidence he was distracted when he assumed the lights changed to green. He was kind enough to pay for the repair bill from LBS and check on me a few days later to make sure I was healing. 

Overall I consider myself very lucky in the incident, because had the driver not been so honest, who knows what would have happened next? Other drivers of vehicles at the junction showed no interest in the incident either, so witnesses were happy to turn a blind eye.

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Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Gdpr
Came across this
https://twitter.com/WilliamNB/status/1670868129285537800

After the exchange I had today with the National Police Chiefs' Council, I will be VERY surprised if police forces continue to use the GDPR excuse for much longer!

Andy cox
Will, the guidance is clear. We can update reporting people

Awaits wtjs case with the ico. !!!

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wtjs replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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Awaits wtjs case with the ico. !!!

It's actually the case against the Commissioner at the Information Tribunal EA/2023/0271. Dealing with ICO is like dealing with the police: whatever it is, they refuse on principle. Therefore, everything has to be appealed at the Tribunal, then the Commissioner complains about how busy they are- they have been granted an extension until 18th August to reply to the appeal.

I will be VERY surprised if police forces continue to use the GDPR excuse for much longer

I won't- not where Lancashire Constabulary is concerned. They still give pride of place on OpSnap Lancs to: you should be informing the public that they are being filmed and should have some form of notification on your mode of transport as you have responsibilities under the Data Protection Act /UKGDPR. They have declined the Tribunal invitation to join the appeal and are sticking to 'we can't even tell you that we know what was done about that case where the Traveller's Choice bus had a go at you and we wrote to you saying that we were taking action, so we're definitely not going to tell you'. Tribunal oral hearing (video link) date not confirmed, although they have asked for my availability 24th September to 5th November. 

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peted76 | 1 year ago
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Re: Laser Lane.. yes I know it's not a new idea.. and I know practically it's not been achieved very well thus far.. BUT imagine if there was a was to project lines like this, at a distance of 1.5m on each side of your bike.. now imagine that we could submit close passes based off it.. and if you have a really good imagination then imagine that the system of uploading close passes was easy, effective and that there were penalties enforced....  sorry I've just wasted everyones time none of that is likely to will happen in my lifetime. 

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Rendel Harris replied to peted76 | 1 year ago
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I like the idea very much but I doubt it could be made to stand up in court due to calibration issues: to prove that the line was in fact exactly 1.5M from the bike both light and cameras would have to be supported by some sort of gimbal or gyroscope system to cope with the movement of the bike, variations in road camber et cetera, and it would have to be proved that they were calibrated correctly and regularly.

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