Driver fined £400 after almost crashing into group of cyclists

There is an answer and it's given here. Fine and points until they get the message. 
 

It would be nice if this Government produced a set of public safety announcements for drivers around Pedestrians, horses and bikes but unfortunately I can't see it happening  soon, except maybe in Scotland. 
 

Until drivers are continually reminded that driving a 1 ton lump of steel is a privilege not a right we can only rely on the courts. 
 

I'd like to form a cycling organisation like the RSPCA that aggressively brings private prosecutions where the police and DPP fail to act. 

Fine and points until they get the message

It's all very well that all of us continue to live in this dream world, except that it's not reality and it doesn't happen. Nobody's getting either because of the police failure to take any of these offences seriously. I haven't yet achieved any fines or any points, and even my detractors on here must admit I'm trying pretty hard. Lancashire simply ignores letters about what is being done about cases, and what is happening with the few prosecutions which are going ahead. My view is that at least some of them were just pretend prosecutions which they never intended should progress- they rely on people giving up and just forgetting about them. However, the complaint about these corrupt practices is in with the Lancashire PCC right now.

Secret_squirrel wrote:

Until drivers are continually reminded that driving a 1 ton lump of steel

not many cars as small as 1 tonne these days

The Gavalier wrote:

How is that careless and not dangerous?

it's my understanding that 'dangerous' requires the act to be deliberate and motivated, whereas 'careless' is just stupidity.

the infamous grouse wrote:

The Gavalier wrote:

How is that careless and not dangerous?

it's my understanding that 'dangerous' requires the act to be deliberate and motivated, whereas 'careless' is just stupidity.

also a careless driving charge is more likely to receive a guilty verdict from the judge or jury as no one believes that somebody's driving has deteriorated to a level that it could be considered dangerous 

Well it wasn't by accident!!! And was motivated by MGIF mentality 

"Dangerous" means "the way he drives falls far below what would be expected of a competent and careful driver, and it would be obvious to a competent and careful driver that driving in that way would be dangerous." - as per Road Traffic Act, s2A.

It doesn't have to be deliberate (although, if it does, driving a car is unlikely to be attributable to an unintentional action).

Careless is simply below the standard. It could also be "inconsiderate" if other people are inconvenienced by his lack of consideration.

The Gavalier wrote:

How is that careless and not dangerous?

The bollard reported that it never really felt under threat.

Exactly, the driver took care not to plough into the traffic island...cyclists... less so.

A choice was made.

The Gavalier wrote:

How is that careless and not dangerous?

I never understood a scale that went from acceptable->careless->dangerous

It is possible (and pretty much guaranteed) for careless driving to be dangerous.

Maybe we need need the two levels to be "careless dangerous driving" and "mindful dangerous driving".