Edinburgh golf club urges council to remove cycle lane – so members can park on the road

spen wrote:

Aren't those double yellows outsie the car park?

Yeah but that's irrelevant if you deploy your BOLAS (tm).  Also without yellow flashes and signage there's always the "but I was loading / unloading" excuse - assuming anyone was actually enforcing this.  In the UK preventing parking is like trying to prevent a cat from sitting on things you don't want it to - but with rules.  Interestingly in some other countries not far from here it's the other way round e.g. no parking is the default, you have to mark / sign the exemptions.

wtjs wrote:

I don't think this Tory-Nutter car-centric anti-cyclist proposal is going anywhere except the bin it deserves.

I hope you're right, I think that's likely.  However though some of Edinburgh council "gets it" things can easily go "backwards" too.  A small but loud objection can be used by those in the council who are anti to vigorously contest each project.  This often results in stalling, legal challenges, another round of "appraisal" or consulting, council officers responsible for active travel leaving so further delays for "staff shortages", budget opportunities being missed and finally some or all parts being abandoned.  Like building the Forth Bridge each time *.

Also I believe a few of these "Tory-Nutter car-centric anti-cyclists" are quite well connected and funded...

* well - maybe like building the Queensferry Crossing (which I imagine just squeezed past "Bridgy McBridgeface" in the naming contest) in that it's been done a few times now so it might take only one decade.

wtjs wrote:

I don't think this Tory-Nutter car-centric anti-cyclist proposal is going anywhere except the bin it deserves.

Are they necessarily Tories though?

hawkinspeter wrote:

Are they necessarily Tories though?

Apparently so...

ah, but only members in good standing, so quite a small demographic.

HoarseMann wrote:

ah, but only members in good standing, so quite a small demographic.

Their code of conduct seems quite reasonable, but I have reason to doubt how well it's enforced *cough*PARTIES*cough*

1. Selflessness – Holders of public office should act solely in terms of the public interest.
2. Integrity – Holders of public office must avoid placing themselves under any obligation to people or organisations that might try inappropriately to influence them in their work. They should not act or take decisions in order to gain financial or other material benefits for themselves, their family, or their friends. They must declare and resolve any interests and relationships.
3. Objectivity – Holders of public office must act and take decisions impartially, fairly and on merit, using the best evidence and without discrimination or bias.
4. Accountability – Holders of public office are accountable to the public for their decisions and actions and must submit themselves to the scrutiny necessary to ensure this.
5. Openness – Holders of public office should act and take decisions in an open and transparent manner. Information should not be withheld from the public unless there are clear and lawful reasons for so doing.
6. Honesty – Holders of public office should be truthful.
7. Leadership – Holders of public office should exhibit these principles in their own behaviour.

• actively promote and robustly support the principles and be willing to challenge poor behaviour wherever it occurs;
• lead by example to encourage and foster respect and tolerance;
• treat others in a professional and straightforward manner;
• act with honesty and probity and in a manner which upholds the reputation and values of the Conservative Party. Such duty is fundamental. Conduct which the public may reasonably perceive as undermining a representative’s honesty and probity is likely to diminish trust and confidence placed in them, and the Party, by the public;
• not use their position to bully, abuse, victimise, harass or unlawfully discriminate against others (see further the interpretation annex);
• take reasonable steps to ensure that people who wish to raise concerns about bullying, discrimination, harassment and/or victimisation by others feel able to do so, and know how to follow the complaints procedure set out in this Code;
• co-operate fully with any process set down by the Party Board should a grievance process be instigated. This Code will be made publicly available on the Conservative Party website.

Last bullet, they have a Party Board! Sounds like they take parties very seriously indeed 

Holders of public office should act solely in terms of the public interest

Not being in the public interest is exactly the reason just given by (expletive deleted) Lancashire Constabulary for taking no action over this pass at 40+mph by Lebus Engineering Citroen LCV PO14 UGX. This 'public interest' declaration is often put out by patently self-serving and bent organisations

wtjs, every single video I have given Lancs plod has been met with the identical response: Not in the public interest. They love to use that term, which, loosely translated means we cannot be arsed to do anything, you are still alive.

HoarseMann wrote:

ah, but only members in good standing, so quite a small demographic.

So neither Boris nor anyone in the cabinet could join.

Founded in 1908? Johnny-come-latelys who couldn't get in to the Royal Burgess Golfing Society!  They're clearly more the "chip-on-the-shoulder" than "chip onto the green" type.

Amazing, people will believe anything they read on the internet. 

Are they necessarily Tories though?

Come on HP, get a grip! These people are manifestly enthusiastic residents of what they think of as Nuremberg am Forth- do you think there's a shortage of BMWs, Audis and Mercedes' in that private Keep Out car park?

wtjs wrote:

Are they necessarily Tories though?

Come on HP, get a grip! These people are manifestly enthusiastic residents of what they think of as Nuremberg am Forth- do you think there's a shortage of BMWs, Audis and Mercedes' in that private Keep Out car park?

Well yes, but I thought it was just a general golf club - I didn't realise it had a political affiliation. Just idly searched and couldn't find a Labour golf club, but did discover that the Chinese Communist Party bans golf club membership: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-34600544

Quite right! China is nothing like the decadent West. In China all corruption is controlled by the state.

chrisonatrike wrote:

Quite right! China is nothing like the decadent West. In China all corruption is controlled by the state.

In a capitalist society, man exploits man and in a communist one, it's the other way around.

Well yes, but I thought it was just a general golf club - I didn't realise it had a political affiliation
By their deeds shall ye know them! This lot would make Reinhard Heydrich look like a Do-Gooder- if you ride around there (I have no personal experience!) the members have either cut you up, or they're going to

One of the most extraordinary things I saw when I did play golf, and one of the things that encouraged me to give it up (alongside the endemic casual racism and sexism, 95% Tory demographic, amount of time and money it took, the fact that I could never get my handicap below 15, etc) was one private club to which a colleague invited me for a round: no trade vehicles were allowed in the car park even if they belonged to members, so several of the members who were taxi drivers, plumbers et cetera kept an old banger outside their houses solely for the purpose of being able to drive to the golf club.

There are often people with golf bags waiting at North Camp station when I'm travelling through in the evenings.

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