Vredestein Fortezza Senso Xtreme tyres

Used once, on a 40 mile ride in the dry, and EXACTLY the same has happened to me as with Ronin.  On both tyres, the central tread has started to separate from the shoulders, so it looks like someone has run a razor blade twice around the circumference of my tyres, leaving a 10mm central strip!  At one point, it looks like the tread might be lifting off the carcass underneath, and the separation between crown and shoulders is the full thickness of the rubber in some places.

They're coming straight off the rims tonight (and I hope that Wiggle will refund me, as I bought the tyres at the end of spring so I'd be ready for the winter and have only stored them in my garage for th least 4 months.  They're folders, for what it's worth.

You can have good and bad experiences with any tyre (Lord knows I had a bad one with my Mavic Yksions letting go in the wet), but I'm thinking that there might be an issue with the way these tyres are manufactured.  Buyer beware!

OK, so I did get a pair of these (in October) and used them this winter. I changed back to Conti GP4000s a couple of months ago. All in all not that much use.

So, I was surprised last night in the garage that I noticed that the central tread had started to separate from the tread on the shoulders almost all the way around. The tires are not worn. Glad that didn't start happening when I was using them!

Thought I'd update my previous grumbles with these tyres in order to be fair to them. 600 miles on them now and no punctures, and I have been grateful for their grip especially in the wet. I think they may have lost a little of their rolling resistance in the past month or so; either they've worn in a bit (possibly the tackiest rubber compound is on the outer layer?!) or more likely I've just got used to them. They're no more or less comfortable than gatorskins, and I had no trouble getting them on and off the rims. My twopence worth...

I bought a pair of these for my commuter on the strength of this review, and Sigma Sport's, instead of just going for the same old Gatorskins that had served me well for the previous 4,100 miles.

I do not think much of these tyres, they are slower than the Gatorskins, don't grip much better, are no more comfortable, and cannot be any more puncture resistant. I've ridden over a thousand miles on Mavic Yksium Power/Grip Links (uncomfortable, punctured easy, not that light) and Schwalbe Ultremos (seriously good, quick, grippy and comfortable and not one puncture in 1,100 miles) so I have a little experience of other tyres.

In short , if I could return them to Ribble for a refund then I would.

This has just come up in Ribble: £300 for Zondas with the Xtreme tyres. Unreal value http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/campagnolo-zonda-xtreme...

Vredestein has been the tires I've consistantly, rated the highest since I started riding them ages ago. I am thrilled to see this review and these will be on two new builds I just started.
I think their Fortezza tri comps from 2006 thru 2009 were incredible.
I really wish they would release these as a tubeless version, but still manage somehow to keep the light supple feel of a standard clincher. Probably too much to ask. I can't wait to try these.
I noticed a poster above that had bad luck with 4 season. I found them to be practically bulletproof. They're just not as refined as the Fortezza. I imagine this tire would be a combination of the two, hopefully.
happy riding.

I have been delighted with Vredestein Fortezza Tricomp, and will strongly consider the new Senso Xtreme for my next winter set.

I found the Tricomp tyres had excellent grip in the wet, were fast-rolling and light, and even relatively durable and puncture resistant. From my last pair I got 3,000km on the rear and 6,000km on the front tyre, with just 3 punctures total. And they're fast, I would have no hesitation in racing them! Well worth the money.

I don't know about the fortezza sensos, but I have both tricomps and tricomp quattros on various bikes and they fit to my wheels (RS30s and some Rigida Novas) easily enough.

They last well for a racy tyre too. I don't know exactly how long, but maybe a couple of thousand miles for the rear. But that depends a lot on riding style.

I don't think I've ever had a puncture (other than snakebites, and valves going) on either of those tyres despite using them for about 6 years. The quattros have bead to bead puncture protection and seem to roll slower than the tricomps. Ribble seems to be the place to buy Vredestein tyres. They are about £25 a tyre on there.

So many questions, like:

Were they easy to get on/off the wheel rim?

What other tires would you compare them too?

"several thousand kilometres" - Can you be a little more specific?

The review seems a little short for a £45 tire that is rated at 4.5 stars...

Sorry, but winter is just around the corner; the last one didn't go well (25mm Conti 4 seasons) so I'm just trying to preparing in advance.