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Permanent Revocation of Driving Licence
Mr PJ Casey has created an e-Petition calling for drivers who cause death by either dangerous or careless driving to have their licences revoked for life. The link is below.
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/68675
I think this e-Petition is worthy of our support. Please sign and spread the word.
Thank you for reading.
If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.
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Not sure we should have people banned for life, after all everyone deserves to have a second chance but sentences should be longer and tougher. I like the Scottish example of 14 years for DDI.
Also I do believe as a driver we should have regular tests every 10 years, the current situation is nonsense really where you pass once for life.
Signed but, being a cynic here, what difference will it make? How many drivers are out there with no licence already? They get banned, ignore it, get a new car, don't tax or insure it and off they go.
Shame it's not the Middle Ages, we'd get away with just cutting off their thumbs or something. That'd definitely work, let's see them try and drive with no thumbs.
Signed
Road.cc - can you post a tweet about this? Likely to get a much bigger audience that way.
From a quick google, it looks like there is currently no maximum ban that can be imposed, only minimums. So a judge could realistically impose a 30 or 40 year ban on these drivers now, but even in serious cases they rarely do.
If this is true, really the pressure needs to come from the government to push for judges to impose longer bans.
I'm all for reckless drivers being banned for life. But I'm not sure what constitutes/differentiates 'careless' and 'dangerous'.
We all have lapses, and no one's perfect*. Some people can learn from honest mistakes and improve, some selfish/arrogant/antisocial fuckers are not interested. It's those latter ones that need to be removed. And I'm not sure how far this proposal goes TBH.
* except some of the non-motorists here on road.cc, who're blessedly perfect
I think the clue is in the bit that says 'Causes Death' if you actually read the petition. I don't care whether its careless or dangerous the result is the same.
Personally don't think it goes far enough. I'd simply say that if you kill someone with a motor vehicle, that's it, no more driving, regardless of how desperately you attempt to shift blame.
As for 'perfect', I agree none of us are. But my imperfections with 120kg of bike and rider moving at 20 mph matter a damn sight less than the imperfections of someone moving 2000kg at 60 mph.
Doesn't even need to be that fast - 99% are dead if hit at 50 mph
https://twitter.com/boyplusbike/status/534072974882910208
(and "survive" doesn't necessarily mean you get up and walk away).
I think the powers that be ought to address two pressing issues first:
1. the 8,000+ people that shockingly are still allowed to drive despite having more than 12 points on their licence.
http://road.cc/content/news/81904-more-8000-drivers-have-12-or-more-poin...
2. the hugely variable and sometimes frankly laughable sentences handed out for bad driving. Campaign groups - RDRF, RoadPeace, CTC etc - are working on this one.
Done.
Signed and tweeted. Lets hope this goes far and wide & is adopted
Signed and shared
Done AND shared
Done.