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Volta Ciclista a Catalunya

Another great line up taking shape.

Movistar aren’t messing about with this one with Valverde, Quintana, Carapaz and Soler all lining up. I’m thinking they’re planning on doing well. 

Also...A tick against Bora but only six riders listed...anybody got any ideas what that’s all about?

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jollygoodvelo replied to Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Some weird glitches in the admin side of things keep switching the deadlines by an hour. The stage starts in a few minutes and the deadline was still an hour away, so I've switched ot so the deadline is now in 15 minutes so as not to screw over anyone wating until the last minute.

 

Ooof, I got lucky then.  I was sitting on a call prevaricating and on one of my "reset team start again" clicks noticed the deadline had come inwards.

Five Colombians 'in' today for me.

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Condor Andy replied to jollygoodvelo | 5 years ago
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jollygoodvelo wrote:

Ooof, I got lucky then.  I was sitting on a call prevaricating and on one of my "reset team start again" clicks noticed the deadline had come inwards.

Yeah it's a strange one. Seems the admin site and the fantasy site can't be open at the same time and this somehow overwrites the deadlines on the admin side. I should have spotted it earlier.

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Did a risky Hodeg > Schacmann. Not convinced I did right...but time will tell. 

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stevemarks replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Did a risky Hodeg > Schacmann. Not convinced I did right...but time will tell. 

 

brought in Schachmann for Gibbons today pretty sure I haven't a clue if that was a good move or not, on my recent form you should all rush out and put money on Gibbons to win today.

 

Minnaarrd is in the break.

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Dr Winston replied to stevemarks | 5 years ago
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stevemarks wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

Did a risky Hodeg > Schacmann. Not convinced I did right...but time will tell. 

 

brought in Schachmann for Gibbons today pretty sure I haven't a clue if that was a good move or not, on my recent form you should all rush out and put money on Gibbons to win today.

 

Minnaarrd is in the break.

They've just been over the finish...it looks really tough. Probably would have been wiser bringing in Bernal as well. 

McCarthy down and maybe out for the day.

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MinardiM189 replied to stevemarks | 5 years ago
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brought in Schachmann for Gibbons today pretty sure I haven't a clue if that was a good move or not, on my recent form you should all rush out and put money on Gibbons to win today.

Good move. Gibbons nowhere to be seen.

I considered bringing in Bernal fro Gibbons but unfortunately decided to stick with the team I had.

Not too bad though, I had 1,2,3,7 + Degendt.

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stevemarks replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

stevemarks wrote:

brought in Schachmann for Gibbons today pretty sure I haven't a clue if that was a good move or not, on my recent form you should all rush out and put money on Gibbons to win today.

Good move. Gibbons nowhere to be seen.

I considered bringing in Bernal fro Gibbons but unfortunately decided to stick with the team I had.

Not too bad though, I had 1,2,3,7 + Degendt.

 

I nearly did Bevin instead but thought Schachmann as young rider would be a better option to keep for tomorrow. 

Now comes the hard part who is going to try tomorrow? Young Knox has caught my eye, but I guess he'll be riding for Mas, Quintana looks up for it, but will he play second fiddle to the green valleys? Froome is down loads of time so will he go up the road? will Chaves go with Froome and which twin will lead behind him? Bardet, Martin, Pinot, Woods, Kruzwijk, Kelderman, Zakarin.....OMG! what do I do?

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Dr Winston replied to stevemarks | 5 years ago
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stevemarks wrote:

MinardiM189 wrote:

stevemarks wrote:

brought in Schachmann for Gibbons today pretty sure I haven't a clue if that was a good move or not, on my recent form you should all rush out and put money on Gibbons to win today.

Good move. Gibbons nowhere to be seen.

I considered bringing in Bernal fro Gibbons but unfortunately decided to stick with the team I had.

Not too bad though, I had 1,2,3,7 + Degendt.

 

I nearly did Bevin instead but thought Schachmann as young rider would be a better option to keep for tomorrow. 

Now comes the hard part who is going to try tomorrow? Young Knox has caught my eye, but I guess he'll be riding for Mas, Quintana looks up for it, but will he play second fiddle to the green valleys? Froome is down loads of time so will he go up the road? will Chaves go with Froome and which twin will lead behind him? Bardet, Martin, Pinot, Woods, Kruzwijk, Kelderman, Zakarin.....OMG! what do I do?

...and just as important.....when to blink with TDG..

Getting lucky with my picks of late. Dither on Bernal and a cheaper pick in for Gibbons and Hodeg or just Hodeg > Schacmann and save a transfer. I'd like to claim some sort of divine knowledge but the truth is the wife was pushing me to go to the garden centre so I just did the quickest option...sheesh...

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Yeah Minardi, that results are super potato, PCS is re-updating, the official website doesn't know what it's on about, and who knows WHAT the points classiciation is supposed to be.

I'll re-update when it makes sense.

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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I think the results are still wrong.

I have a picture of number 171 finishing near the top 10.

171 is Bevin, Owsian is 174

also Greipel is 231 not Moinard

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

I think the results are still wrong.

I have a picture of number 171 finishing near the top 10.

171 is Bevin, Owsian is 174

also Greipel is 231 not Moinard

Also...If Gibbons had a mechanical at 2.5km out should he not have been given the same time as the bulk of the finishers?

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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I think it safe to say we learned something these past two races. Bernal is  going to be very fond of nicking the odd few seconds in the sprints. Wasn't sure if Paris/Nice was just a case of the opportunity presenting itself in the winds but today showed maybe not.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

I think it safe to say we learned something these past two races. Bernal is  going to be very fond of nicking the odd few seconds in the sprints. Wasn't sure if Paris/Nice was just a case of the opportunity presenting itself in the winds but today showed maybe not.

He is also good at sneaking into the top10 in sprints.

I was considering dropping Degendt and bringing in Bernal for today's stage for exactly those reasons.

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

I think it safe to say we learned something these past two races. Bernal is  going to be very fond of nicking the odd few seconds in the sprints. Wasn't sure if Paris/Nice was just a case of the opportunity presenting itself in the winds but today showed maybe not.

He is also good at sneaking into the top10 in sprints.

I was considering dropping Degendt and bringing in Bernal for today's stage for exactly those reasons.

Definitely....and just like Valverde he is defending from the front by being up front. He really is going to be a very special rider.

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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I have De Gendt in my purist, didn't expect him to feature in the finish today! Hell of a ride.

Might not tweak my team too much for tomorrow and make more transfers for stage 3.

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MinardiM189 replied to Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

I have De Gendt in my purist, didn't expect him to feature in the finish today! Hell of a ride.

Might not tweak my team too much for tomorrow and make more transfers for stage 3.

I swapped Degendt out for Quintana in my purist  2

I was expecting something from Gibbons today but have a feeling he might be struggling with illness, if he was OK I would have expected Dimension Data to help out the chase.

Turns out Gibbons had a mechanical with 2.5km to go.

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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What happened to young Hodeg?

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stevemarks | 5 years ago
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Schachmann or Mas? Schachman or Mas? Schachman or Mas?

 

Mas of course. happy to have plumped for TDG though. He should really win the whole thing now. But if he does. will he be a marked man forever?

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Dr Winston replied to stevemarks | 5 years ago
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stevemarks wrote:

Schachmann or Mas? Schachman or Mas? Schachman or Mas?

 

Mas of course. happy to have plumped for TDG though. He should really win the whole thing now. But if he does. will he be a marked man forever?

well he's a marked man for the rest of this tour for certain. I doubt we'll be getting any more breakaway KOM points.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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well he's a marked man for the rest of this tour for certain. I doubt we'll be getting any more breakaway KOM points.

Degendt will struggle on Stages 3 & 4,  I expect he will lose the jersey on Wednesday and maybe go for the break on Thursday to collect KoM points and then try and win another stage on Friday or Saturday.

Hodeg got dropped mid-race.

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

well he's a marked man for the rest of this tour for certain. I doubt we'll be getting any more breakaway KOM points.

Degendt will struggle on Stages 3 & 4,  I expect he will lose the jersey on Wednesday and maybe go for the break on Thursday to collect KoM points and then try and win another stage on Friday or Saturday.

Hodeg got dropped mid-race.

A very big drop for a quick step rider. I assume they tried to get him back on did they?...or is he not quite right?

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

A very big drop for a quick step rider. I assume they tried to get him back on did they?...or is he not quite right?

It didn't surprise me, I don't think he is very good in hilly terrain and the team wouldn't have been able to bring him back to the peloton. Bauhaus got dropped a bit later and his team left him behind.

Greipel got dropped a lot later but had all his team (except Barguil) bring him back on the descent.

 

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Dr Winston replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

Dr Winston wrote:

A very big drop for a quick step rider. I assume they tried to get him back on did they?...or is he not quite right?

It didn't surprise me, I don't think he is very good in hilly terrain and the team wouldn't have been able to bring him back to the peloton. Bauhaus got dropped a bit later and his team left him behind.

Greipel got dropped a lot later but had all his team (except Barguil) bring him back on the descent.

 

Mmmm...yeah...as I said this morning I don’t know much about him other than he’s a good sprinter and keeps getting me points usually....but there’s sprints and there’s sprints...they’re not all the same.

Keep or ditch?

 

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MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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Pretty sure the initial results are wrong.

It was Aristi 5th not Bizkarra and Van der Licke was 9th, McCarthy 10th, Bevin 11th, Caruso 12th.

I think I'm happy with that even though Gibbons went missing.

I was tempted to include Bernal from the start but that would have meant dropping Degendt.

What is the most a rdier has scored on a stage over the years?

Degendt must come close with today's tally.

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Condor Andy replied to MinardiM189 | 5 years ago
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MinardiM189 wrote:

What is the most a rdier has scored on a stage over the years?

Degendt must come close with today's tally.

Some dude got over 90 either last year of the year before. De Gendt today will pick up....I'll score when I get home, but 35+10+5+5+6+other intermediate sprint result that I missed+top points one climb+2nd points other climb+top points on minor climb ~ 80 points maybe.

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MinardiM189 replied to Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Some dude got over 90 either last year of the year before. De Gendt today will pick up....I'll score when I get home, but 35+10+5+5+6+other intermediate sprint result that I missed+top points one climb+2nd points other climb+top points on minor climb ~ 80 points maybe.

I have him on 90, too bad there isn't a combativity competition with that he would have made 100.

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Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Yeah..he's in the break...so far....

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Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Hodeg is decent on the lumps and he's the best sprinter that's going imo. He won stge 1 last year.

Lotto are leading with Vanendert, who's surely going just to build form for the Ardennes. Lambrecht will probably get the GC nod and TDG will be his normal self I expect, depending on whether he's too bushed after Paris-Nice.

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Dr Winston replied to Condor Andy | 5 years ago
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Condor Andy wrote:

Hodeg is decent on the lumps and he's the best sprinter that's going imo. He won stge 1 last year.

Lotto are leading with Vanendert, who's surely going just to build form for the Ardennes. Lambrecht will probably get the GC nod and TDG will be his normal self I expect, depending on whether he's too bushed after Paris-Nice.

Aye...he doesn’t always perform. Quite an odd team really for this race, it looks more like a training exercise than a serious attempt at winning.

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MinardiM189 replied to Dr Winston | 5 years ago
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Dr Winston wrote:

Aye...he doesn’t always perform. Quite an odd team really for this race, it looks more like a training exercise than a serious attempt at winning.

Lotto Soudal are mainly using the race as a training exercise with riders free to ride their own race.

I don't expect to see Hodeg sprinting for the win on stage 2, I think there will be a sprint from a reduced bunch.

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