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So today i am going with :
Joaquim RODRIGUEZ KAT 35.2 GC
Greg VAN AVERMAET BMC 22.9 PC
Bauke MOLLEMA RAB 18.0 KM
Jakob FUGLSANG LEO 31.0 AR
Mikel NIEVE ITURALDE EUS 16.0 AR
Fredrik KESSIAKOFF AST 9.0 DS
Steven KRUIJSWIJK RAB 12.9 DS
Daniel MORENO FERNANDEZ KAT 8.4 DS
Wouter POELS VCD 12.1 DS
I'm hoping that my transfer of Chavenal coupled with tommorrows transfer out of avertmaet for sutton will leave me enough for Nibali ready for the ITT. . . .. need to do some sums tonight, but who ends up with most points in Wiggo wins the ITT and ends up 10th in the GC whilst Nibali finishes say 7th in the ITT but 1st in the GC. . . . so im thinking Nibali
both out of sight from me I think. My team now for what it is worth.
Joaquim RODRIGUEZ
Greg VAN AVERMAET
Bauke MOLLEMA
Maxime MONFORT
Mikel NIEVE ITURALDE
John DEGENKOLB
Marcel KITTEL
Daniel MORENO FERNANDEZ
Konstantin SIVTSOV
Interesting discourse GK and Ter. Some stats perchance.
Kittel
Stats
Victories in the database: 44
Classification – Road – General Classification: 2
Road – Criterium: 1
Road – Stage: 20
Road – European Championship: 1
Road – Individual Time Trial: 8
Road – National Championship: 1
Road – National Time Trial Championship: 4
Road – Team Time Trial: 2
Road – Prologue: 2
Road - Race: 1
Road – World Time Trial Championship: 2
Victories by team/year:
2007: 2 victories
2008: 3 victories
2009: 5 victories
2010: 4 victories
2011: 13 victories
Degenkolb.
Stats
Victories in the database: 36
Track – National Championship: 3
Classification – Road – General Classification: 2
Road – Criterium: 3
Road – Stage: 19
Road – Individual Time Trial: 4
Road – National Championship: 1
Road – National Time Trial Championship: 1
Road – Team Time Trial: 1
Road - Race: 2
Victories by team/year:
2008: 4 victories
2009: 1 victory
2010: 10 victories
2011: 6 victories
you will probably beat me
Wiggins
Bennati
Cobo
Sagan
Fuglsang
Gasparotto
Capecchi
Poels
Moreno
Joaquim RODRIGUEZ
Manuel QUINZIATO
Bauke MOLLEMA
Daniel MARTIN
Mikel NIEVE ITURALDE
Jan BAKELANDTS
Pablo LASTRAS GARCIA
Daniel MORENO FERNANDEZ
Konstantin SIVTSOV
Thats tomorrows team
The other martin is a woeful TTist (from what i can remember) so i wouldnt but im likely to go for martin and fuglsang for the TT depending on what happens 2morrow and sunday
Well i kinda get what you mean, but can you afford to wait as there is only going to be a select group who finish up the front tomorrow and Sunday??
He's less than a minute down and with alot of the others being leaders in the game he's a fine choice as an AR, so i have him and with him being only 16 the credits i have left will allow me to have Martin and Fab for the ITT or maybe even both Martins
Gkam i have scope to catch you in the vuelta, and with only 3 events, i believe, after the vuelta, u need to make a few more points on me before the vuelta finishes to catch me overall but its gonna be close, we should both finish about 100th overall unless either of us has a distaster
Touch wood, i'd be quite happy to make the top 100 out of the 5610 teams, ok some of them have not played all season, but quite alot have, about 3000 were around at the start of the game
It will be interesting if we continue on our almost opposite paths till the end of la vuelta to see who comes out on top and then only Cycliste de Montreal and two world champ events to make up any lost ground
yup hopefully, yh think it may have been as high as 3600 that have competed for most of the season, but as bad a start i have had in the vuelta scoring just 3 the other day im still 400 and something
Yup it will although im heading more towards your style of team now, although wiggins will stay purely for monday, i now have one DS that you have (the obvious choice) and my other transfer did well on a simlar finsih to 2morrow the other day. But while you have mollema im expecting cobo to continue to come good over the next week.
Im sure there is a sky rider in the cycliste that most people will pick along with an OPL rider (or should do as i expect him to top 3 behind the OPL rider) so cant see too much scoring differences in that, however the worlds will be interesting especially if it gets blown apart and i could see more than a 50 point difference if people dont get lucky with picks
Yeh, but had to modify my plan to get them a miserable 60 odd, and now out out of shape for the weekend.
Your only 1 point behind me on this tour fatty
TERatcliffe26 your now 40 points behind in the tour and around 70 ahead in the season, i'll have you before the end
1/2 and some jersey and gc points maybe a decent load at last.
By the way my new bontrager bum fitted saddle is making my butt sore as anything with an F.
thanks for that , 87 points today i think !!
depends on which one
Leaders 10
Points 5
Mountain 5
Allround 0
how many points do you get if your rider is wearing a jersey ?
Proper top 10 GC
1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 27:29:12
2 D. Moreno (KAT) +15
3 Nibali (LIQ) +16
4 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +23
5 Fuglsang (LEO) +25
6 Kessiakoff (AST) +41
7 Monfort (LEO) +44
8 Van den Broeck (OLO) +49
9 Pardilla (MOV) +49
10 Bruseghin (MOV) +52
Sagan takes the points jersey
1 P. Sagan (LIQ) 50
2 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) 48
3 Lastras (MOV) 48
4 D. Moreno (KAT) 41
5 Kittel (SKS) 41
Mountains stays the same
1 D. Moreno (KAT) 20
2 C. Sørensen (SBS) 15
3 de Kort (SKS) 13
4 Moncoutié (COF) 10
5 Martin (GRM) 10
Top tip for everyone tomorrow, get Michal Golas in
DONT pay any attention to this, i'm just putting it up for the laugh that i'm having
Top 20 GC
1 Sy. Chavanel (QST) 27:29:39
2 Fuglsang (LEO) +14
3 Kessiakoff (AST) +22
4 Bruseghin (MOV) +31
5 Monfort (LEO) +33
6 Seeldraeyers (QST) +37
7 Pardilla (MOV) +46
8 L. Sánchez (RAB) +54
9 Zubeldia (RSH) +1:03
10 Capecchi (LIQ) +1:06
11 J.J. Cobo (GEO) +1:10
12 Froome (SKY) +1:13
13 Nibali (LIQ) +1:22
14 D. Moreno (KAT) +1:32
15 Wiggins (SKY) +1:34
16 Roche (ALM) +1:37
17 Van den Broeck (OLO) +1:38
18 Nieve (EUS) +1:39
19 Mollema (RAB) +1:39
20 Joa. Rodríguez (KAT) +1:40
oops, duplicated. intentionally weird . . ..
So I will ignore it and Chavenel is sacked ! I'll bring a real rider in instead to replace him . . . or am I being NAIVE ?
(Does anyone work out my cryptic clues?)
I get this one, but not your last so YOU'S KA TEL us now?
Yeh i get this too, i wouldnt for tomorrow but i would be tempted for sunday, but as it is the TT the day after and he would require a transfer to get him out i would be tempted to wait until after the rest day but i could quite easily see him in my team come wednesday
overall im ahead, but struggling in this tour, i reckon i will have got back about 40 points today on you, but you were about 90 ahead i think.
I know thats what i was referring too, although id be quite happy for it to stay like that, but it is gonna be a nightmare for them
Overall maybe not, but i think you'll have me in the this tour now
I'm just laughing at the Infostrada standings, cause they haven't bothered to put all the times back to 0 with no time gaps cause it was inside the last 3km, whats going to be hard for the tour now, work out who was in that group and who was in the tailed off group and split the times
The current GC has all the time gaps from the crash, so unorganised is the vuelta
yh i put him in as ive scored hardly any points so far and has thus not cost me anything as i wouldnt have had a rider in scoring me any points had i left him out.
but nope i wont be taking any of those others in
i didnt defend him or pass comment about him, my only point is he may improve with experience but right now he aint good enough compared to a kittel who is just as inexperienced
As for points scored im still no threat to you at all
Degenkolb??? Nah i really think you should keep him and take Farrar in along with the vaconsolei rider who was helped across the line with someone holding a towel to his face
So much for the people defending Degenkolb yesterday, i really dont think he's a contender for a stage this year and depending on where he ends up next year, i dont see him as a GT rider
Well done to Kittel for taking the stage today, I'm still mystified as to why you are so dismissive of Degenkolb though?
Out of curiosity, I just checked latest IG Rankings (which include Tour of Poland), Degenkolb is in 58th place, Kittel is 106th.
Now that doesn't prove who is the better rider necessarily, but it does suggest that dismissing Degenkolb out of hand is a bit unfair.
For what it's worth, I see him as more of an attacking rider who can sprint, rather than an out-and-out sprinter - which is rather handy, since he'll be racing with Kittel at Skil Shimano next season of course (and previously they raced together at Thüringer Energie).
By the way, Skil Shimano's manager reckons Degenkolb is a future TDF green jersey winner.
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