The Case for Non-Expiring Tranfers for Standard Users Too

pay then! I'm not sure if you know how much £10 is in dollars but it's just a smidge under $15!

Hmm, I think I would prefer a system where premium players were the only ones eligible for the prizes but played under the same rules (happy for them to have more stats, because everyone could do that research for themselves, but agree that rolling over transfers could provide a big advantage that can't be accessed any other way) but regardless the game is fun and I enjoy it, so thanks. And I fully see the justification for charging for it, and for offering something more in return for that money. As it is I am on a tight enough budget with enough other priorities that the tenner for this won't happen for me, but I keep coming back to the site because of the game. And I will sign up for the standard player's league if it happens!

Enrique I understand that in these difficult times it is sensible to watch what you do and don't spend money on. I applaud you for obviuosly not throwing a tenner at a game and using it for something more important. Many others wouldn't. You make considered arguments and I can tell you appreciate Road CC and the game.

The point I want to make is Road CC are in business to promote something they are passionate about (cycling) and make money. If they didn't make money they wouldn't be able to provide the great Road CC website etc and share their passion. They need to charge a fee to develop the Fantasy Game and improve it for everybody, which they cleraly have done. But they are also considerate enough to include all those like yourselves who don't want to or can't afford to pay which is a sign of their passion and wanting everyone to enjoy cycling and all that goes with it. Such as this game.

I think the game this year is pretty much perfect. Road CC has listened to all the advise on this forum and incorporated as much as they can and granted most of our wishes within reason. For those who are willing to pay of course they expect a bit more. It wouldn't be fair to pay and not get anything extra than the free game. But I am greatful that the free game is provided. It means the game and cycling as a whole is as it should be- accessable to anyone who wants to do it.

I hope this doesn't sound like a rant or patronising. I just feel that Road CC and this game provides a fair and reasonable compromise between standard and premium and for that we should be appreciative.

Agreed, the winners of all three grand tours last year were premium (I think) and the same rules applied. Just saying they'll win because of the transfers is missing the point that generally the people who think they have a shot at the win were premium last year and will likely be again this year.

I also agree with TERatcliffe26, it's a tactical option to save/use the transfers but actually it may be better to use them as you would as a standard person. This year's tour in particular has more mixed terrain so we're not in a position where there are 10 flat days where you can save all your transers then splurge them on a TT and mountain stage. To get the big points you also have to:

a) pick the right team for the first stage because getting it wrong puts you at a massive disadvantage

b) keep up with whoever is going for the breaks

That means that skill will play the biggest part in a) and you'll need to keep spending transfers on b).

You will be able to see who is premium and who is standard, as those who are premium have a P in a red box next to there team name in the standings.

I cant see non expiring transfers having as big a difference as you seem to think they will.

Just because people have the option to save up transfers does not mean that it will be an advantage in terms of scoring points. People may save up transfers but miss out on scoring big points because they didnt make a transfer.

Also it may be that premium take the top 10 spots in a grand tour, but that doesn't mean it is due to the transfer system at all, also the proportion of players may make a difference.

I think your getting rather caught up in what is likely to be a non-event in most races.

Its only a tenner if you really want that transfer rule, only £1 a month which is nothing these days, as well as nearly twice as many races

this year everyone's playing for the main prizes, there's no premium only game in the big races. that means you can rock up as a standard player, have a go for free and walk off with a bike in one of the grand tours.

if you pay your tenner you get better stats, more sort options and a better deal on rollover transfers. all of those things could make a difference to your score. soon you'll be able to mark riders you're watching and make notes about them, which will help you even more. you'll also be able to play for other leagues in the grand tours, specifically KOM and sprint lagues, if you want. on top of that you get the achievement badges to play for, 12 extra tours and two teams on one account.

what we've tried to do is make the premium game better value, and give you more for your tenner, as well as giving you a slightly better shot of winning one of the prizes. if you still don't think it's worth it – even just counting the non-premium competitions it's only 8p a stage – then that's your call. if you want, you can just compare yourself to the other standard players, or set up a league with the people you're *actually* competing against and all agree to play standard.