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Advice needed - tyres/tubes

by Brocky1
Sun, May 31, 2020 20:26
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Hi all,

Slowly getting to grips with more of the techy side of cycling (usually just jump on the bike and ride kinda thing).

I’m looking at an upgrade and have set my sights on the Giant Defy Advanced 2 Disc.

https://www.giant-bicycles.com/gb/defy-advanced-2

Looking at the tyres/rims it comes with these seem to be tubeless.

Now with my limited experience of DIY’ing it I would prefer to use tubes with the simplicity of I know how to fit/change them etc.

My question to you is - with this bike - am I able to use a tube in the tyre with those rims or would this be just leading to problems? If so would I be able to swap the tyres for non-tubeless and be good to go?

Thanks for any input and apologies if this is a very obvious post to some!

Cheers.

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Chris Hayes | 4 years ago
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Here's one: had a puncture on my rear Conti 5000 TL tyre yesterday which sealed pretty quickly.  However, on cleaning my bike this morning I discovered that I now have a 1.5-2mm cut near the apex of the tyre, so it will get poked again.  

I have no particular desire to take the tyre off and patch it from the inside - that's too messy - though common sense says this is what i should do.  The alternative is to plug it (I have plugs but have never used them before), or carry on riding in the expectation that it will seal again....

Any views?

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ktache replied to Chris Hayes | 4 years ago
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I'd be tempted to plug, just in case.

I looked forward to fitting my first anchovie.  It was wet and dark, lots of puddles, mud and drizzle.  Chilly too.  Odd noise from the front, changing as it rotated, stopped, losing air and sealent, sharkstooth shaped flint was stuck in there.  Got out the cheap noodle kit I had with me, inserted anchvie in the prongs.  Removed the stone and had a couple of goes stabbing it in there, eventually stabbed it in, rotated the tyre to distribute the sealent and it had sealed, trimmed a little bit off, and then rode home slightly gingerly.

It was a step up from pulling out the big thorns and watching it seal.  The fun of tubeless.

I will get the Muc Off kit, 2 sizes of noodles, a nice pouch and what looks like a better stabbing handle on the tool.  And eventually when I am feeling especially flush a lovely looking Dynaplug thingy.

The anchovie (now trimmed in and out) is still in the tyre, removed cleaned and refitted.  To me it seems as permanent as patching my latex tubes.  Though we are talking knobby tyre so no issues with anything potruding on a slick.

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Oxoman1965 | 4 years ago
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Currently running a defy Adv pro 2  tubeless for 3 1/2 yrs now and not had a problem. Just replace tyres as they have worn out or been damaged beyond use. Currently running IRC formula pro xguard tyres with no issues. Just carry a few tyre worms and the applicator and a Co2 inflator and forget about fitting a tube. The guy who runs cycleclinic is a tubeless convert and his tech page is worth a visit. I run 3 of my bikes tubeless with no issues. If you go to www.cycleclinic.co.uk and look at his tech pages and blog and all will be revealed. By the way the defy is a dam good bike, love mine.

 

 

 

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Hirsute replied to Oxoman1965 | 4 years ago
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I get cycle clinic domain is for sale ??

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Chris Hayes replied to Hirsute | 4 years ago
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Google 'the cycle clinic'....belongs to a wheel-builder working out of Suffolk... 

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Hirsute replied to Chris Hayes | 4 years ago
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https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/pages/tech-page

Id expect the sealant to cope with 2mm
Or try stans dart tool.

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Oxoman1965 | 4 years ago
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Newbie joined from elsewhere. Currently running a Defy Adv pro2 with the stock SLR1 wheels tubeless with no issues at all. Ran the Gavia,s till one was damaged beyond use by a glass bottle bottem and the other was just worn out. I have only just bothered to top up the sealant after over 2yrs use. Tyres pop on and off easily when ive changed them. Honestly can,t see the point in putting a tube in myself. Currently Running IRC formula pro xguards as i use it as a dry weather commute bike. I just carry tyreworms and the tool to fit them and a Co2 inflator and thats it.

For advice on tubeless this guys website info is brilliant.

https://thecycleclinic.co.uk/pages/tech-page

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kil0ran | 4 years ago
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Generally you can always use a tube in a tubeless rim with a tubeless compatible tyre as sometimes you'll have such a catastrophic failure that sealant won't handle it and you'll have to stick a tube in to get home. 

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Judge dreadful | 4 years ago
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The wheels have a 'trench' which allows you to use a tube, if you need to. You could try running them tubeless, you might like it,  but carry spare tubes, because when they fail, you will be stuffed, if you don't have tubes with you.

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Joe Totale | 4 years ago
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Yeah, you can use inner tubes but it'll be a tight fit as those tyres aren't designed for them. You'll need to remove the valve and also any sealant if the store has already put some in. 

There's not a lot to learn with tubeless, I'd give it a go first, I personally prefer it. 

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