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Shoe and pedal change advice

I currently use SPD M520 Mtb Shimano pedals £30, and Shimano Mtb SPD M089 shoes costing £50 and with a stiffness rating of like 3/12, 2 velcro straps and 1 ratchet. They're great for commuting and walking to/from the office. Reasonably comfortable even on longer rides. I cant really complain about them at all, even after 15000 miles or so in them.

Time to upgrade though for performance reasons, to something like the Shimano RX8 gravel shoe, which is £175 carbon 10/12 stiffness etc. But, before I do this! I need your help...

1) will I really experience a lot of difference in power transfer and delivery? What experience will I get with very stiff shoes? Worthwhile upgrade for the money?

2) I ride 98% road, and a little gravel or light trail. I am a road cyclist basically. I like training and trying to improve my ftp, I'd like to do sportive and maybe cat4 sometime down the line. I'm keen right.
So at this upgrade cross-roads, should I instead make a switch to SPD-SL R7000 105 road pedals £75 and Shimano RC7 road shoes £175. There is so much anecdotal 'better power transfer' comments on every article or forum, but is there any study data that shows SL pedals are higher performers on the road than SPD? If I'm going to walk like a plonker on the commute at the office, I'd like the riding to be more enjoyable and/or better performance.
I dont want any other pedals/cleats like Look or Speedplay.
What would you do? What is your experience of SPD vs SL?

Thanks!

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Joe Totale | 4 years ago
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I personally much prefer the bigger platform of road shoes over MTB and find it's benefits outweigh the fact that it's a less practical system.

It's mainly a comfort thing for me, I find I get the hot spots on my feet when I use MTB pedals for too long.

Having used a power meter I also find my power transfer has improved slightly.

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Simon E | 4 years ago
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1) will I really experience a lot of difference in power transfer and delivery?

No. Don't believe the hype, those made-up stiffness ratings are irrelevant. Cycling shoes, even cheap ones, don't really bend and anyway your force should be going through the shoe at the point where it is in contact with the pedal, not at the opposite end of a plastic ruler.

SPD-SL, Look and other 3-bolt systems do generally entail you walking like a prat (with much greater odds of going arse-over-tit). I've used SPD-SL and SPD and much prefer the latter everywhere except racing, where I like the firmer clamp; but it makes zero difference to performance.

More info - https://road.cc/content/buyers-guide/spd-sl-v-spd-how-choose-best-cliple...

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Jimmy Ray Will replied to Simon E | 4 years ago
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For me basically the opposite of what he said...

The difference might be that I have terrible feet, and the extra support and control of a quality road shoe makes a tangible difference. To quantify that, I gained 20watts simply from changing from one high quality road shoe to another high quality road shoe from a different manufacturer.

But... as mentioned, this depends on you and your feet. If you have good supportive feet, you could be getting 98% (made up percentage) of potential performance out of a pair of slippers

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