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End of the road for Tour de France Unchained — Netflix confirms no more seasons; "Yes... and long overdue": Cyclists support calls for drivers to be "presumed liable" in collisions; Wax your chain...in a rice cooker?! + more on the live blog

Welcome to the Thursday live blog... Dan Alexander is in the hot seat for all your updates, news, reaction, silliness and more
12:11
"This will be the final season... we are naturally coming to an end of this cycle": Netflix confirms there will be no Unchained cameras at 2025 Tour
Tour de France Unchained (Netflix)

Netflix France has now confirmed to us that season three (due to air before this year's Tour) will be the final Unchained season. In a statement provided to us this lunchtime, Netflix said:

This will be the final season of the series: after three seasons, we are naturally coming to an end of this cycle. We're very proud of the work we've done and of the public response to the documentary series, which has allowed us to offer a fresh take on this legendary competition. Netflix France will continue to explore new territories in the world of sport.

10:34
French media report suggests Netflix to drop Tour de France documentary
Tour de France: Unchained (Netflix)

French newspaper Le Parisien has reported that this summer's third season of Tour de France: Unchained, the behind-the-scenes Netflix documentary, may be its last. The documentary follows numerous riders and teams' journey to and through the race, and it is launched on the streaming platform in the week ahead of the next year's edition. 

However, sources have told Le Parisien that Netflix no longer wants to film at the race and, despite nothing being official, the riders, organisers and teams "have started to get used to the idea that Netflix's cameras will no longer be there in June".

One source from a French team told the newspaper: "Usually, at the end of January, we are already contacted by Netflix for filming in the spring with some of our riders. This time, we haven't had a single phone call. It seems that the message is clear."

Another source added: "Frankly, it's complicated for Netflix to renew itself every year. We're still in a repetitive sport: bus, race, bus, hotel, sleep and repeat the next day. And with Pogačar crushing everything, the suspense seems complicated to maintain."

Le Parisien claims the second season's viewing figures were judged "average", quite good abroad but "disappointing" in France, giving the streaming giant a business decision considering the enormous production costs. It isn't all doom and gloom however, the newspaper suggesting that Netflix may film behind-the-scenes at the women's Tour instead.

We've contacted Netflix for comment. Season three is set to air ahead of this year's race, the documentary undoubtedly going to be dominated by Pogačar's phenomenal year, as well as hopefully much of Binian Girmay and Mark Cavendish's history making.

11:40
Gran fondue: more chain waxing tips from the kitchen

We're enjoying the comments about waxing your chain in a rice cooker. Sredlums reports their waxing is done in an "old electric fondue pan" and works just fine.

"Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That's it."

brooksby: "Mmmm, fondue…  I can't get out of my head this image of your wax bubbling away while you dip components into it on a fork…"

It's got to almost be lunchtime now...

11:22
"If he joins us like in the Tour, he will be a tough opponent. But I don't lose any sleep over it.": Mathieu van der Poel eyes up potential Tadej Pogačar clash at Paris-Roubaix
Matthieu van der Poel at Paris Roubaix 2024 (Zac Williams/SWpix.com)

Those images of Tadej Pogačar riding the infamous Arenberg Forest during a Paris-Roubaix-themed training ride have got us all more than a little bit excited about what could be if the world champion adds the Hell of the North to his programme for 2025. Last year, Mathieu van der Poel raised his arms in victory in the rainbow jersey, could Pogačar repeat that feat in a few months' time?

Tadej Pogačar, Arenberg training ride, 2025 (Tim Wellens, Instagram)

Well, speaking to Sporza, Van der Poel had his say on the prospect of a Pog clash on the cobbles...

"I don't know what his plans are for Roubaix," the Dutchman said. "If he joins us like in the Tour, he will be a tough opponent. But I don't lose any sleep over it. The Tour has already shown that you have to be 110 per cent to beat him. I had good legs, but he still dropped me on the Oude Kwaremont. But the more good riders at the start, the better, because then the race will fall into place."

Van der Poel also confirmed he'll be skipping the road World Championships this year and targeting the mountain bike race instead, the 5,000m+ of climbing in Rwanda likely to see Pogačar a heavy favourite to defend his title in 2025. But first, San Remo, Flanders, Roubaix... you know you want to, Tadej...

10:09
Sustrans hails "fantastic boost" as £30m allocated for National Cycle Network improvements
komoot coffee ride Mike Stead NCN77 beside the Tay

You might have seen all sorts of headlines across the media yesterday, from the BBC doing a regional story for every single part of the country, to GB News claiming "Drivers will be 'persuaded to leave the car at home' with new £291million boost for cycling and walking". It's the outlining of funding for active travel in England (excluding London) by Active Travel England. It's not new funding, but did outline where the money will be going.

£222.5 million is to go to local authorities for the development and delivery of local walking, wheeling and cycling schemes, alongside community engagement and training. This is for both 24/25 and 25/26, so worth considering that's not an annual budget.

Bikeability and Sustrans received £30m each for their respective work providing training and maintaining the National Cycle Network. Xavier Brice, CEO at Sustrans, told us: "This funding is a fantastic boost to our work to make the 13,000 miles of routes safer and more accessible for local journeys, whether by foot, cycle, wheelchair or mobility scooter.  

"We can now step-up our work with local communities, many partners and governments across the UK, to make it easier for everyone to walk, wheel or cycle for more journeys, growing local economies, providing easy and healthy access to nature and helping people live well for longer."

09:33
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09:18
Waxing your chain... in a rice cooker?!

Meanwhile on Facebook...

Chain waxing in a rice cooker (Bandol Jaramillo/Facebook)

Bandol Jaramillo shared this snap with the caption: "Waxing with old rice cooker works just fine."

It gave me great pleasure reading the exchange that followed...

Cyclist 2: "Rice cookers heat too fast and too far. Slow cooker is what you want."

Bandol: "Not if you just leave it on warm setting."

Cyclist 2: "They still heat way too fast and damage the paraffin molecules before switching to warm."

Bandol: "I don't switch on the cook setting, just basically plugging it and it will take about 10 to 15 minutes to fully melt. I can't see how that's fast."

Cyclist 3: "My rice cooker doesn't have a low or high."

Cyclist 2: "10-15 minutes is way too fast to melt the wax. Do you have a multi-cooker like an Instant Pot, or an actual rice cooker?"

Bandol: "Just a normal rice cooker. If you don't flick the cook botton it will just stay on keep warm setting."

Cyclist 2: "Gotcha. I would avoid a rice cooker but to each his own. It takes about an hour to melt in a slow cooker. The rice cooker is going to ruin the wax on a molecular level."

That went on and on for a fair while longer, but was great fun to witness.

For a guide to more conventional chain waxing, check this out...

> Your complete guide to waxing your chain: how to save watts and keep your chain clean for longer

08:57
"Yes... and long overdue": Cyclists support calls for drivers to be "presumed liable" in civil cases if they hit a bike rider or pedestrian

Yesterday we brought you news of a Parliament petition that's nearing 2,000 signatures and asks the government to introduce presumed liability for civil cases from road traffic collisions. In short, that would mean in the case of a collision the less vulnerable party would be presumed liable unless they can prove otherwise.

So, drivers would be presumed liable for collisions with cyclists, pedestrians or horse riders and, also we should point out, cyclists presumed liable for collisions with pedestrians — not that that has put anyone here off, based on a quick look in the comments.

Female cyclist in london red coat on steel road bike -copyright Simon MacMichael

> Petition asks government for drivers to be "presumed liable" for cyclist collisions

Here are some of the replies we got on social media where we asked if it was a good idea:

"Yes. And *LONG* overdue."

"If it helps to make cycling on the roads safer I'm all for it. Hopefully make drivers more aware that there are others on the road who are vulnerable."

"Yes. With my cycle hat on. Yes! As someone who tries to always be a good driver, also yes!"

And some more from the road.cc comments: 

Spangly Shiny: "The recent changes to the wording in the Highway Code, specifically outlining the Hierarchy of road users was an excellent first step. Now it requires the obvious follow-up legislation to enforce that hierarchy so that four-wheel Frannie gets to understand his/her place in the order of things trafficky. This from someone who drives around 20-fold as much as I ride."

chrisonabike: "I mean, it's a detail of a detail (if you need this, the bad thing has already happened, AND it doesn't help e.g. stop the driver driving - it's nothing to do with the criminal side) ... but it's something in the right direction."

John G: "Petition signed, letter also emailed to my MP."

C3a: "I agree. Off to sign."

Others rightly pointed out the bit included in the original article explaining how presumed liability is already a thing across Europe, and works effectively. The vast majority of negative replies on a certain social media site either failed to grasp this is in civil proceedings, not criminal; and that, yes, almost all cyclists are absolutely fine (and aware it also means) bicycle riders being presumed liable for collisions with pedestrians. 

Commuter cyclists in London stoped at light with van in background - copyright Simon MacMichael

Any more thoughts on presumed liability? We might be preaching to the choir here, but would you like to see it implemented in the UK?

The petition will run until 18 May and if it reaches 10,000 signatures it will receive a response from the government. If it receives 100,000 signatures it will be considered for a debate in Parliament.

Dan is the road.cc news editor and joined in 2020 having previously written about nearly every other sport under the sun for the Express, and the weird and wonderful world of non-league football for The Non-League Paper. Dan has been at road.cc for four years and mainly writes news and tech articles as well as the occasional feature. He has hopefully kept you entertained on the live blog too.

Never fast enough to take things on the bike too seriously, when he's not working you'll find him exploring the south of England by two wheels at a leisurely weekend pace, or enjoying his favourite Scottish roads when visiting family. Sometimes he'll even load up the bags and ride up the whole way, he's a bit strange like that.

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PRSboy | 1 hour ago
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I thought the TDF Unchained was very well done actually.  A lot more interesting frankly than much of the actual race.

I fear for pro-cycling generally when even the TDF moves to expensive streaming platforms.  Sponsors will get even less ROI and funding will dry up.

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the little onion | 2 hours ago
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Sustrans being awareded £30 million isn't the god news it might seem, given their propensity to declare any old rubbish as part of the Notional Cycling Network. Including a sandy beach accessible only at low tide.

I hope that any cycling routes that are created are usable in all weathers by all kinds of cyclist on all kinds of bikes, and that they are direct routes between places people want to go.

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chrisonabike replied to the little onion | 1 hour ago
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Apparently they're better now...

Like the government and authorities they're trying to "align" with the pressure to avoid mentioning the "C" word - or indeed doing things which particularly align with the needs of cyclists - appears strong.  So it's "Active Travel" - and I'm surprised it's not been renamed the "walking, wheeling and (shh) cycling network".  It's certainly pushed as "recreational" which seems to be what we've ended up with in many places.

That's not taking away from the incredible efforts of volunteers who essentially set up a parallel "department for transport" and built / bought / negotiated a country-wide collection of infra (read more in Laura Laker's book).

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ktache replied to chrisonabike | 1 hour ago
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I have ridden bits of their routes on my commutes for many years, mainly the 5, Birmingham and Reading. Longer bits for recreation. They get my money every month.

As with all commuting and travel routes, you try, and if it's not right you seek alternatives. And hope that you end up with the best compromise.

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chrisonabike replied to ktache | 1 hour ago
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Oh, I use them all the time - indeed part of the reason I'm living where I am is it's basically right by an off-road "almost-network".  And almost always "good enough"; if ... you don't mind dog walkers, unhappy pedestrians, the glass, football and rugby crowds on foot.  And the occasional thugs, motorbikes - oh and sexual predators...

If they hadn't built some parts (volunteer / charity effort!  Often it seems in spite of LA / government) which "somehow work" (for this lifetime cycler), I wouldn't bemoan the bits which really look like "national sign-off network" or "national sign network".

There's just enough - in some places - so you do start wondering "hey - why do we need to spend time with maps / talking to people to find usable alternatives, or seeking an acceptable compromise?  I don't do that when I'm driving - and rarely when walking in urban areas..."

Especially when you realise other places have an urban network (just like for pedestrians / drivers) AND "intercity routes" AND also a country-wide "recreational network" like this [1] [2], AND even greener or more "recreational trails" like this [3] [4] [5]...

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the little onion replied to chrisonabike | 58 min ago
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My point is the counterfactual - what would we have got if Sustrans weren't so eager to sign off any kind of rubbish? The argument of their defenders is that we wouldn't have anything. The counterpoint would be that there might be more pressure on government at all levels to build something that actually  works. 

It's like painted cycle lanes on road - we know from proper scientific studies that they actually increase danger to cyclists, so that they are worse than nothing. And indeed, if the budget/political will had been instead applied to creating proper segregated facilities, then we would end up with a proper cycling network! 

Accepting low standards just allows decision-makers to claim they are doing something, whilst not actually delivering anything.

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chrisonabike replied to the little onion | 26 min ago
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the little onion wrote:

My point is the counterfactual - what would we have got if Sustrans weren't so eager to sign off any kind of rubbish? The argument of their defenders is that we wouldn't have anything. The counterpoint would be that there might be more pressure on government at all levels to build something that actually  works. 

Well - like most counterfactuals we'll never know.  But I guess you could estimate this by looking at how much "sufficiently good" infra the government and councils built before.  I'd say that would amount to ... not much.

It's not quite "nothing" because the UK does seem to go round in cycles.  So every decade or so (or is it quarter century?) someone sits up and says "this cycling thing?  It seems to have a lot of benefits we'd really like, and it's cheap - do you thing it could ... work?"  And stuff gets funded, trials and studies are done... but because "trial" and "in addition to driving, not instead of some driven trips" modal share for cycling only increases to a percent or so, not e.g. 5 - 10% or more.  And then events come along and/or the politicians have been there for a bit and become unpopular.  And it all gets ditched.

the little onion wrote:

It's like painted cycle lanes on road - we know from proper scientific studies that they actually increase danger to cyclists, so that they are worse than nothing. And indeed, if the budget/political will had been instead applied to creating proper segregated facilities, then we would end up with a proper cycling network! 

That's a massive "if" there... where would this political will have come from and how (and if it could have ... why didn't it)?

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Accepting low standards just allows decision-makers to claim they are doing something, whilst not actually delivering anything.

Completely agree ... but the problem with cycling is that the people who need to approve / demand "good enough" * are not the cyclists of today **.  Which is a problem, because a) they don't know what good cycling facilities are b) they likely don't understand how convenient and pleasant it could be c) many don't care about cycling and indeed won't be "enthusiasts" even if they become part of "mass cycling" and do cycle themselves d) they have lives they've already built around driving / walking and providing for cycling may mean some change for them.

I have also been scathing about Sustrans back in the past.  Having seen just how little support for "doing it at all" never mind "doing it right" there is though I am less certain how it could have been different.  (Reading the history in Laura Laker's book was interesting also).  Of course, if the government - or maybe even one council or one city/town - had decided to go in a different direction and been able to change quickly enough AND weather the criticism over time ... [1] [2]

* e.g. a safe and convenient cycling network of continuous cycle routes, separated from motor traffic where needed (by distance it's more about "slowing down and reducing motor traffic volumes" and decreasing "permeability" for it), with good social safety and secure parking, which facilitates social cycling e.g. is wide enough for side-by-side.

** To a first approximation we're outliers; the fit and the brave, "enthusiasts", sportspeople ... and/or have less social status e.g. the really poor, those who can't drive - including banned drivers, the young, those with certain disabilities ...

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brooksby | 2 hours ago
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Female cyclist in London casual winter clothing on hybrid bike - copyright Simon MacMichael

You keep using this photo.  Am I the only person who looks at it and thinks, "She's wearing a thick coat and fur boots, but left her legs uncovered?  She must be freezing!" ?

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HarrogateSpa replied to brooksby | 2 hours ago
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Also, I'm not sure of the ethics of photographing young women cycling without their knowledge/permission.

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Rendel Harris replied to brooksby | 2 hours ago
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I'm more concerned about the lady in the second, also frequently-used photograph, with her handbag apparently dangling from the bars and just asking to get caught in the brakes or spokes.

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Mr Anderson | 2 hours ago
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Strict Liability Law - 20 years ago I did not support this, because there are careless/negligent/incompetent cyclists too.

Today there is no reason not to implement this. The abundance of Dashcam offerings and at low cost, mean every driver now has the opportunity to provide evidence they were not at fault.

The only question I have, will Strict Liability be applied in the incidents of Cyclist v Pedestrian collisions?

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GMBasix replied to Mr Anderson | 2 hours ago
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Mr Anderson wrote:

20 years ago I did not support this, because there are careless/negligent/incompetent cyclists too.

There are, and see the response to your question below. However, note that in cyclists v pedestrians, the cyclist has not brought 2 tonnes to the scene of the crash at up to 70mph (or perhaps even more). Even where the more vulnerable party may be at fault - either partly or wholly - for the cause of the collision, they are not the cause of the scale of the damage or injury caused.

It is entirely reasonable to presume that the person who brings the most kinetic energy with them carries greater responsibility for anticipating the presence and actions of others around them.

Mr Anderson wrote:

The only question I have, will Strict Liability be applied in the incidents of Cyclist v Pedestrian collisions?

According to the wording of the petition, yes.

Mr Anderson wrote:

Today there is no reason not to implement this.

Exactly

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chrisonabike replied to Mr Anderson | 1 hour ago
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Just as long as everyone remembers a) this has no bearing on criminal court matters, only civil ones *. b) This is about recompense after the fact and is not likely to do much if anything for "safety" [1] [2] [3] (again - civil compensation).

It's still a good idea though!  e.g. if people survive it should make it a bit easier to get help to pay for their care.  Of course this relies on not being in Scotland, where - if pushed - the police might assist by asking the driver if they remembered this happening, and going away when the driver said "no".

* In theory I guess it could but that is highly unlikely to happen.  It would be a radical innovation; I'm not aware of that being the case anywhere else.

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Sredlums | 3 hours ago
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"ruin the wax on a molecular level"

Sigh. The wax will melt, and solidify again afterwards. That's all there is to it.
I do my hot waxing in an old electric fondue pan, works just fine.
Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That's it.

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brooksby replied to Sredlums | 2 hours ago
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Sredlums wrote:

"ruin the wax on a molecular level"

Sigh. The wax will melt, and solidify again afterwards. That's all there is to it.
I do my hot waxing in an old electric fondue pan, works just fine.
Melt the wax, turn the temperature down a notch, put in the chain, let it sit for a minute or so, stir it a bit, take it out and turn off the heat. That's it.

 Mmmm, fondue…  I can't get out of my head this image of your wax bubbling away while you dip components into it on a fork… 

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SimoninSpalding replied to Sredlums | 2 hours ago
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Indeed, best not to tell them about the temperatures and pressures involved in refining crude oil to produce the wax...

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Tom_77 replied to Sredlums | 2 hours ago
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Sredlums wrote:

"ruin the wax on a molecular level"

When I wax my chain I always get the electron microscope out and examine the wax molecules individually, just to be sure.

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wtjs replied to Tom_77 | 2 hours ago
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No, it's an atomic force microscope you need

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