Any threat to health? Garmin Radar Varia

Vovis wrote:

Will it fit drop bars without interfering much with position of hand? Sprinttech mirror seems to be more discreet, better integrated and  also look more "aero". That is not my setup but found elsewere. 

Yes, I've got it on my drop bars and as it replaces an end-plug, it's nowhere near my hand. I position mine more inwards of the handlebars so that when leaning the bike against a wall, the mirror isn't moved at all, however that means that I'm more likely to hit it with my knee as I have long legs and a short wheelbase (never hit it whilst cycling though).

I'd say that it looks less aero than the Sprinttech ones, but the ease of adjusting it makes it much more useful. As these mirrors are small, they need to be in just the right place to give you a useful view and once you get used to using them, you can just have the quickest of glances to get an idea of what's behind you.

ktache wrote:

Now I understand more, when "commuter racing" looking back to make sure you've actually dropped them means you are just trying too hard.

Absolutely - with a mirror you can have a discreet glance to see if you've dropped them (rarely) or not (most common).

I do find a mirror handy for a pre-look when you're planning to turn right/switch lanes/exit a cycle path etc. You still need to have a full look behind you before performing a manoeuvre but sometimes you want to look to see if it's a suitable time to do it.

Here's my bike (currently cleaning it) with the mirror in place.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Here's my bike (currently cleaning it) with the mirror in place.

Disappointing.

I was expecting to see a furry character pop his head out of the top tube bag or admiring his/her own reflection in the mirror.

Simon E wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

Here's my bike (currently cleaning it) with the mirror in place.

Disappointing.

I was expecting to see a furry character pop his head out of the top tube bag or admiring his/her own reflection in the mirror.

Can you not see the hidden detail in the brickwork?

Vovis wrote:

@John Smith, 

please calm down, pretty familiar with electromagnetic spectrum and its wavelenght/energy conversion. 

First of all, Excuse moi my bad English, I interpreted sunbed in a very different way  

 

Here in the UK, that's more like a rainbed.

This is what I thought of when you mentioned sunbed:

Mungecrundle wrote:

Just imagine what could happen when passing a wind turbine? Why the cancer causing soundwaves might mix with the radar to mutate you into some sort of Marvel supehero! Long and short of it. If you are concerned about the possible unknown health effects to yourself or your riding buddies, then it's probably not worth the stress of taking the chance.

Sold!

Vovis wrote:

I am not spamming or supporting any conspiracy theory about pure WiFi signal effect (from which our bodies developped a natural protection by evolution).

Either WiFi was invented much earlier than I thought it was, or I've misunderstood evolution.

Vovis wrote:

Your sunbed has nothing to do with road cycling neither with electronic devices, it's  passive; but you are right, if you want to find similar physical effect elsewhere, you always can

And that right there shows you know far to little about the basics of the electromagnetic spectrum to be reading papers on it. 

The sunbed bed has everything to do with it. Both the sunbed and the radar release electromagnetic radiation. The difference being that UV wavelength is much shorter and more dangerous. If you want to worry about electromagnetic radiation being a danger cycling you need to worry about the big yellow fusion reactor in the sky emitting far stronger, more dangerous radiation than some battery powered radar thing.

If you really not convinced I have a radar protection amulet I can sell you for a barren price, and a bag of majic seeds.

hawkinspeter wrote:

My advice to anyone suffering from EHS is to do some double-blind testing - get someone else to operate the power switch randomly and record symptoms periodically and see if there's any correlation.

 

I think you have described a "single blind" protocol. To be "double blind" neither the subject nor the operator must know whether placebo or real stimulus is happening. The truth should only be revealed at all after all data is collected, processed and analysed.

Sriracha wrote:

hawkinspeter wrote:

My advice to anyone suffering from EHS is to do some double-blind testing - get someone else to operate the power switch randomly and record symptoms periodically and see if there's any correlation.

 

I think you have described a "single blind" protocol. To be "double blind" neither the subject nor the operator must know whether placebo or real stimulus is happening. The truth should only be revealed at all after all data is collected, processed and analysed.

Yep, that sounds better - you'd probably have to have the switch operator just record when the electricity is flowing and have several subjects (not in the same room at the same time) reporting symptoms every minute or so (depending on how fast the symptoms manifest) and then have someone else perform the analysis. Maybe wrap the whole testing facility in aluminium foil too.