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Bad Driving Prosecutions; do the police actually do what they say? (+vid)
I could do without running cameras, but would rather be in a broken state with the police telling me they've arrested a driver as opposed to telling me there's no evidence or witnesses (ie nothing they can do). I've only ever submitted 2 (to Avon & Somerset Police), the latest is via the link below, and got the standard, "the driver has been issued with a warning letter, fixed penalty or prosecution; thanks for helping keep the road safe". Lesson from the latest was to check the timestamps were correct; they weren't but I felt it was sufficiently bad driving and just submitted it anyway. Is there any evidence the police follow through with what they say or is it just to make us feel better? I e mailed Domestic Drain Solutions in Bristol (the van in the video); never got a response.
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Fortunately, the solution is available: GPS. Almost always works on GoPro, and if it doesn't acquire then it's absent. It doesn't get it wrong. The problem is that the PC software is dire, so I'm not recommending it.
If they won't tell you what they've done, it means they have either done nothing at all, or the least-effort one of the options they offer. Simple.
On the essex site, they now ask about the timestamp and if it is correct.
If this question doesn't appear for you, then next time I would put the question and answer in the submission.
Terrible driving though.
The A&S website does ask that; if you say it's not correct you can't continue with the submission. I said it was correct but then said, in a free text box, that I accepted it wasn't in but that the driving was so bad that I felt it should be submitted. Thought they'd just refuse to accept it because of the incorrect timestamps, which are now correct.
That's a poor design on their website in that regard - it should offer the option to submit footage with incorrect times.
I did one earlier and I get the option that the time stamp is not correct but the incident time I filled in on page 1 is the correct day/time.
If it were not for sites like road.cc, we would not be aware of the inconsistencies between forces.
I've spoken with an Avon & Somerset officer after submitting footage of me hitting the side of a van when the driver cut straight across a junction (I was able to scrub off most of my speed, so I didn't come off or even get hurt) and he seemed straight up and honest about what they do. I haven't got any actual evidence that they do what they say, but I also haven't got any reason to think that they don't.
I often have minor issues with timestamps as a run a Fly12 up front and a Fly6 on the rear and they don't seem to like keeping in sync - they often differ by a couple of minutes or so. I think they're more bothered about the date than the exact time.
That driving was abysmal though.
I think timing only has to be approx, its just lucky we have cameras that can synch to the second if needed to. But does the time synch on both cameras with the app, and then they just both driftover time ? mine was left in BST for a month before I realised, as the app is mostly pointless thesedays
I'm not entirely sure what the Cycliq app is doing as the UI isn't the best and it just takes ages to get a bluetooth connection to the camera. In theory, the app should sync the time of the camera with the phone so I'm guessing that the cameras just drift out of sync with each other. I did encounter a bug whereby the app would set one of the cameras to be a few hours out of sync.
I like Cycliq's products, but their software is awful.