Drivers and their problems

That, the mind control and spreading COVID.

David9694 wrote:

Owner of infamous Paignton party bus won't let police incident stop him

Self-employed drum and bass DJ Martin Dickson, 50, ...

There is a solution to that problem! (Two wheels good, three wheels better! )

https://m.youtube.com/@DomWhiting

David9694 wrote:

pay up, whingers 

M5 driver stunned after being hit by Clean Air Zone fines

https://www.devonlive.com/news/uk-world-news/m5-driver-stunned-after-bei...?

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won't put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it's a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

HoldingOn wrote:

Agree - unlikely she will drive again.

However - what planet was her lawyer on:

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This was not a case of dangerous driving with a flagrant disregard of the rules.

That lawyer should get disbarred or prosecuted for perjury for spouting that rubbish. Just the drunk driving would count as a flagrant disregard of the rules and being so blind drunk that you can't figure out which way to drive on a motorway is hardly any kind of excuse.

Well that would explain all those #nodriverinvolved "accidents"!  Nick literally just sat in his car and it would not go 20mph!  Perhaps he'd even put it in neutral, or turned the engine off and put the handbrake on?

Hopefully your idea of checking them all will help identify those which are also liable to autonomous behaviour.  After all experiencing this terrifying loss of control means their drivers should be pitied.  Unlike cyclists in a close pass they're clearly victims here...

brooksby wrote:

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won't put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it's a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

I don't know why they don't just take the train to the airport...

David9694 wrote:

Even the sky itself is copyright Google. (was looking for chemtrails). 

Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

Signage for Bristol Airport from the M5 sends you along the A4 Portway and then the A370 toward Weston-super-Mare and the airport.  This route takes you through the Clean Air Zone, and there have been lots of complaints from tourists about it.  DfT has said that the motorway is several miles from the CAZ (true) and that they won't put up CAZ-warning signs that far away.

With the benefit of local knowledge, you can go along the A369 and the back lanes to get to the airport without going through the CAZ, but it's a much more fiddly route, not intended for heavy volumes of traffic, and takes longer.

I don't know why they don't just take the train to the airport...

But then they'd have to drive to Temple Meads (because they'd have to drive), so they'd still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

hawkinspeter wrote:

David9694 wrote:

Even the sky itself is copyright Google. (was looking for chemtrails). 

Burn the land and boil the sea
You can't take the sky from me

You can't stop the signal

brooksby wrote:

But then they'd have to drive to Temple Meads (because they'd have to drive), so they'd still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

Can't they get the train to Temple Meads and then the Underground for the rest of the journey?

hawkinspeter wrote:

brooksby wrote:

But then they'd have to drive to Temple Meads (because they'd have to drive), so they'd still go through the CAZ.

Better to wait until the Bristol Underground is built, surely?

Can't they get the train to Temple Meads and then the Underground for the rest of the journey?

But you can't carry your holiday luggage on a train!

Err - waitaminute...

hawkinspeter wrote:

I don't know why they don't just take the train to the airport...

You can't carry a fridge on a train!

chrisonatrike wrote:

You can't carry a fridge on a train!

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there's much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don't they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there's much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don't they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

The ruddy great disused runway at Filton got sold off and built on.  Houses.  Hundreds of them.

I can't keep up with 'progress'...but neither can bing maps.

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there's much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Me also - was surprised to find it's further and certainly seems less pleasant on a bike than getting to Edinburgh airport (from the main railway station in each place).

On the other hand we have that wonderful tram.  (The tram is convenient though from the centre of town - albeit not much faster than cycling)

pockstone wrote:

You prompted me to take a look at where Bristol airport is, esp. re. existing railways. (Our local airport, Leeds Bradford is inaccessible by rail but there's much talk about extending the line and building a new station at great expense.)

Why don't they just relocate Bristol Airport to the ruddy great disused runway at Filton? Railway within yards, Motorway within minutes.

It'd get in the way of the stadium if that ever gets completed.

David9694 wrote:

I'd  be in favour of CAZs etc being a layer on Google Maps.  I'd be in favour of drivers being able to receive a text message if they were due to pay a charge. 

The Euro classifications listed in the criteria don't mean anything to me:
"Euro 4, 5 and 6 petrol vehicles, roughly 2006 upwards
Euro 6 diesel vehicles, roughly end of 2015 onwards"

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/streets-travel/bristols-caz/charges...

Approaching from the M5 south, you'd have to drive quite a long way around 3 sides of a rectangle to get into the CAZ; if you're coming from the M4 and went M32, you're literally in the city centre - and what sort of petrol old banger are you running for it to be an issue at all?

The CAZ includes the end of the A4 Portway as it comes into the city centre and joins the A3029 and then the A370 heading out toward the airport (a junction area known as Cumberland Basin).

It's one of people's main complaints, that if you follow the signage from the M5 to to go to the airport you are funnelled directly into this little spur of the CAZ and by the time you get close enough to see CAZ warning signs its too late and there's no way of avoiding the CAZ.

Or something like that, anyway... 

David9694 wrote:

I'd  be in favour of CAZs etc being a layer on Google Maps.  I'd be in favour of drivers being able to receive a text message if they were due to pay a charge. 

The Euro classifications listed in the criteria don't mean anything to me:
"Euro 4, 5 and 6 petrol vehicles, roughly 2006 upwards
Euro 6 diesel vehicles, roughly end of 2015 onwards"

https://www.bristol.gov.uk/residents/streets-travel/bristols-caz/charges...

Approaching from the M5 south, you'd have to drive quite a long way around 3 sides of a rectangle to get into the CAZ; if you're coming from the M4 and went M32, you're literally in the city centre - and what sort of petrol old banger are you running for it to be an issue at all?

You can put your reg number into https://www.gov.uk/guidance/driving-in-a-clean-air-zone and it'll tell you which zones to be careful of.

Personally, I think the allowed amount of pollution is way too high. I propose an alternative measurement scheme - leave your car running in a normal sized garage for 30 minutes with the driver sat there and see if they can survive the fumes.

hawkinspeter wrote:

Personally, I think the allowed amount of pollution is way too high. I propose an alternative measurement scheme - leave your car running in a normal sized garage for 30 minutes with the driver sat there and see if they can survive the fumes.

A bit strict. After three pints and a curry, I may fail this test sitting on my bicycle!

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Ms Morrell said Denny had realised her mistake when she joined the motorway but did not know how to correct it.

"She increased and decreased her speed as she tried to work out how to correct the situation," Ms Morrell said.

"This was not a case of dangerous driving with a flagrant disregard of the rules."

Or, you know, she could have pulled over onto the hard shoulder...

andystow wrote:

As it's often absolutely necessary to go much less than 20 MPH, such as when pulling out of a parking space, I'd suggest that all cars be pulled from the road immediately until each model can be tested and shown to be capable of being driven at 5 MPH. It seems the regulators must have been missing this big issue for decades!

I once drove out of a car park at the stipulated 10 m.p.h.  An impatient driver behind me tried to get ahead by dodging down a side aisle - left, then right, then right again - only to have to give way to me as I made my way carefully past the junction at which she'd just arrived.  How I laughed at the steam coming out of her ears!

Have you tried pulling across 3 lanes of oncoming traffic ??!!

I had similar recently cycling on a narrow road. The driver behind tried to go round three sides of a small park to get ahead of me while I cycled along the one remaining side. I confess I actually had to slow down to ensure we intersected at just the right moment.     

At midnight? I'm actually amazed she hit someone.