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A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

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David9694 | 1 year ago
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Campaigners to stage seafront 'park in' against road changes

The protest will see people park their cars as they used to along the seafront - and leave them there

This is what it comes down to - the “right” of drivers to park on the seafront with the Daily Mail and a flask of tea.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/campaigners-stage-seaf...

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David9694 | 1 year ago
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Southampton cemetery bollards plans: Families stage protest

state of this - another driver sit in. 

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/23425825.southampton-cemetery-bollards-...

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David9694 | 1 year ago
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'Selfish cow' written on mum's car window in Westcountry town

Tensions over parking are growing in this Westcountry town

Not sure what this is all about, here in genteel Topsham; it's a 1 hour parking restriction 9-5;  the van near the end of the row belongs to Arthur's. 

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/selfish-cow-written-mu...

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Awavey replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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made for tv shocker

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giff77 replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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How the f*** did 3 motorists manage to drive that close to the kerb?  I wouldn't cycle there let alone drive.

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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TrollsandPBUsWelcome wrote:

Don't wear a hairclip when driving.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-64966149

Nothing to do with

"In the thick fog I couldn't see clearly and I came to an unexpected bend. I tried to brake and make the turn on time, but I lost control of the car and it skidded across to the other side of the road.

"I think I hit a tree, which caused the car to flip - the police said it flipped 50 metres," she said.

BBC and Jeena Panesar wrote:

... she lost control of her car in thick fog on a country road, in Swadlincote, Derbyshire, in January.

[she] said the car skidded, hit a tree and flipped for 50m (164ft), coming to a stop on its roof.

Erm - so how fast was she driving in that thick fog, exactly...?

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wtjs replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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“We are sick with worry.”

It's tough facing a national disaster such as this, striking fear into hearts. Looks like the use of legs might be required in this clearly deprived area

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ktache replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Great find.

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wtjs replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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no punishment the court could impose would come close to what the driver has been putting himself through...

Another example of the fashionable shyster lawyer tactic of converting the extremely guilty offender into a victim. It would have been pretty much the same outcome if he'd killed a cyclist, as we have seen so often on here

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hawkinspeter replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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David9694 wrote:

Top Bath Conservative member accuses council of 'woke extremism'

so, no doubt aware of of that is going down in Oxford...

Mr Pritchard said: “People don’t want to live in your dystopian carless world where everyone will stay in their designated 15-minute zones. People want to do their bit for the environment their own way and to live their lives in freedom and comfort. Nobody has ever asked for an eco dictatorship.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/local-news/top-bath-conservative-mem...

Quick - someone ask them to define 'woke' and see if they can do better than Bethany Mandel's brain freeze when asked the same.

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IanMSpencer replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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I wonder what would have alerted the police that he was a banned driver?  3

Did it not occur to the driver that the police knew where he lived?

Sometimes the criminal minds is quite amazingly dense.

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brooksby replied to hawkinspeter | 1 year ago
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He said: "... I can’t fathom why they’ve chosen the area they have for the CAZ, other than to generate lots of fines.

"A clean air zone in a densely populated area like Easton, St Paul’s or Bedminster. But they choose the centre, which is relatively sparsely populated."

I think the intention was to stop people just driving right through the city centre when all they are doing is driving right through rather than having to be there.

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He also feels annoyed that fines were only sent out by the council after the six-day grace period.

Isn't that what they mean by a grace period?

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NOtotheEU replied to Awavey | 1 year ago
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Awavey wrote:

Norfolk Police ask "why has there been an increase in fatal collisions in Norfolk recently" not sure the ABD will like the answer. https://www.norfolk.police.uk/news/latest-news/why-has-there-been-increa...

"We would urge drivers to take care when driving and remain alert throughout their journeys. Take time when making decisions at junctions and ensure that you have read the situation accurately before making your manoeuvre."

The fact that the police feel the need to give such basic advice to stop people being killed sums up the standard of driving shown by the average driver nicely.

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David9694 replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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I'm glad cyclists are required to dismount - I mean phew! right?

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Awavey replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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based on income isnt it...

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ktache replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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They want some of those bollards to stop that.

Milton Keynes has a few that should have been going spare...

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JustTryingToGet... replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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Tiny electric car tips over while driving around Monaco Grand Prix hairpin

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This is the moment a Citroën Ami electric car drove around the Grand Hotel Hairpin in Monte Carlo, Monaco on March 11 and overturned. Bystanders rushed to help the occupants, who were hospitalized with minor bruises.

Who knew that the Citroën Ami was self-driving?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/tiny-electric-car-tips-over-092715674.html?espv=1

We've got one of those near us and I can't decide if I love it or hate it. It looks like it's made of lego, it's butt-ugly, I reckon it would crumple like tinfoil in a collision but.... I think I'd want to drive it like Mario cart which I'm assuming is what was happening on the hairpin 😄

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 1 year ago
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TrollsandPBUsWelcome wrote:

Scores of commuters whose cars were parked on the pavement returned to find their vehicles had been vandalised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-somerset-65065520

"I understand the frustration. I know it's not right for the locals but it's definitely not right for the people paying money for train tickets."

So now buying a train ticket entitles you to park wherever you want regardless of how it affects others.

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Resident Chris, parked his car in Station Road and said he returned to find an offensive sticker on his mirror and damage to his vehicle he estimated would cost £1,000 to fix.

Hmm - I wonder what that offensive sticker was...? 

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JustTryingToGet... replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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David9694 wrote:

Campaigners to stage seafront 'park in' against road changes

The protest will see people park their cars as they used to along the seafront - and leave them there

This is what it comes down to - the “right” of drivers to park on the seafront with the Daily Mail and a flask of tea.

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/campaigners-stage-seaf...

"The scheme has also resulted in a serious visual impact on the seafront"

A bigger visual impact than motor vehicles? Tell me your argument is bullshit without telling me it's bullshit

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David9694 replied to Jogle | 1 year ago
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You didn't include the opening words of the article:

A GOOD Samaritan motorist

I therefore sentence you to one bent Presta valve stem. In arriving at this sentence, I have taken into account your previous good behaviour, but be warned if you appear before me again, stiffer penalties such as a drivetrain clunk on every other pedal stroke are available.

 

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David9694 replied to giff77 | 1 year ago
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Exhibit 1 - despite bad weather and pitch-black, he chose the B road via Brandon, rather than the A134 via Thetford.

Mundford, the destination, is on the junction of the roads from Brandon and Theford. 

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David9694 replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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Is she one of these drivers that goes along A roads at 40 mph and applies the brakes every time she sees a tree or oncoming? 

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jh2727 replied to wtjs | 1 year ago
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wtjs wrote:

no punishment the court could impose would come close to what the driver has been putting himself through...

Another example of the fashionable shyster lawyer tactic of converting the extremely guilty offender into a victim. It would have been pretty much the same outcome if he'd killed a cyclist, as we have seen so often on here

Sounds like a good case for increasing the level of punishment that the courts can impose.

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David9694 replied to NOtotheEU | 1 year ago
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The most common cause of fatal collisions in Norfolk in 2022 was loss of control (26%), closely followed by failing to look properly (21%).

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Rendel Harris replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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There is one on display in the appallingly named "Chelsea Truck Company" car dealership on the north end of Albert Bridge that I go past every day. Seeing it sitting amongst the enormous wankpanzers on display is like seeing a toddler wandering through a crowd of elephants; I think it would be a lovely thing to have if one had a private estate to drive it around on, not sure I would fancy taking it out in any sort of traffic.

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Awavey replied to brooksby | 1 year ago
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door mirror not wing mirror ?

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chrisonabike replied to JustTryingToGetFromAtoB | 1 year ago
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JustTryingToGetFromAtoB wrote:

"The scheme has also resulted in a serious visual impact on the seafront" A bigger visual impact than motor vehicles? Tell me your argument is bullshit without telling me it's bullshit

There's some fascinating psychology here but the ubiquitous becomes invisible.  (The interesting bits are the excellent heuristic shortcuts discovered by evolution to save our fairly meagre reserves of attention and how that plays out).  People literally cannot see the motor vehicles - or the vast spaces dedicated to them [1] [2] - because this is "how it is".

Also motor vehicles tend to "average out" because over the course of the day you'll see different ones.  While infra is always there, in the same position.  I think this is part of the reason people so object to the cycle hangars.  First they're primed to attend to them because "new" and "objectionable" - negative emotions attached to something are a powerful trigger.  Then they're "always there" when we look.  I'm sure if there were enough and they stayed they'd become invisible eventually however.

A similar but opposite effect is shown in SMIDSY cases.  There we only "see" what we are looking for even though our eyes are pointed at other things.  In that scenario people are only looking for motor vehicles.  The rest of the time we rather ignore roads and cars in our vision.  It's maybe not so difficult: they're distinct from natural artefacts, with square shapes and straight lines.  Rather ugly actually...

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Jogle replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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David9694 wrote:

You didn't include the opening words of the article:

A GOOD Samaritan motorist

I therefore sentence you to one bent Presta valve stem. In arriving at this sentence, I have taken into account your previous good behaviour, but be warned if you appear before me again, stiffer penalties such as a drivetrain clunk on every other pedal stroke are available.

 

I already have a drivetrain clunk, so you'd have to sentence me to two

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David9694 replied to David9694 | 1 year ago
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exhibit 2 "Finding out the tyre of their Mercedes-Benz C-Class was instantly flat, they rolled around the corner to find two cars in the same position"

Speculation, but this could be the culprit pot-hole and seems to be the corner they rolled around - did he stop get out and inspect the tyre here? 

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wtjs replied to jh2727 | 1 year ago
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Sounds like a good case for increasing the level of punishment that the courts can impose

Agreed, and I'm sure you are aware that the real problems are that the courts don't impose the punishments they can impose

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