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Heart rate

Do you worry about your heart rate when you are out riding?

What is your average sort of heart rate on rides?

This is something that has concerned me a little with having some chest pains which has been cleared by my gp and tests etc.

Just interested to know if anyone takes much notice in their heart rate and if anyone else comes across any chest discomfort.

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Blackiegray | 4 years ago
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Hey,  just to chip in and echo some of the other comments as this has been a focus of me recently.  I'll try and keep it short...

A few months ago I developed a heart defect in the sense that I was randomly dropping beats (not in the good way) and heart was beating from 40bpm to 120bpm within a few seconds, my normal resting heart rate was 60bpm and max was 190bpm so although it was irregular and "not normal" it was in a "nothing to really worry about" zone (these were quotes from the cardiologist).  I'm normally a fit and healthy cyclist, 40 years old, non smoker, very occassional drinker, 5' 9" 70kg.

Anyway... I was given beta blockers which I found gave me a new max heart rate of 158bpm and what I do is ease off whenever I get close to that max, 150 is fine, when I see it go to 155 then I ease off for a few seconds and find a new rhythm that I can keep at about 150.  I'll continue to do this until I can get back to my doc and get the heart issue properly sorted.

The other advice I can offer is that like you I was getting chest pains, and due to the ongoing heart issue, I was, as Rabbie Burns said "shiteing myself", however I worked out that I had GORD/GERD, which is basically acid reflux, which is really symptomatic and feels weird as shit, and if you're prone to anxiety, which I'm not - but this had me worried, it can exacerbate the problem.  I now take Omeprazole in the morning and at night, and what really helps, although only for a short time, is Peptac (or Gaviscon, but just get Boots own, exactly the same), that sorts it out but only lasts a few hours.  Oh, and cut out caffeine or at least limit it to a morning cup.

Of course, don't take mine or anyone elses advice if you're worried, but if the doc has given you the all clear with all those scans, then fingers crossed it's maybe a bit of acid reflux and anxiety.  Long story short, set yourself a new max heart rate that you're happy with and try not to go above that until you're confident that the issues are under control.

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Jimmy Ray Will | 4 years ago
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Ah I've been here in the past. On reflection, the positive of the whole experience is that I had my heart well and trully investigated and given the all clear, which is a good thing for all of us to have done on occasion.

For me, it all came down to anxiety, the vast majority of which was around the strange chest pain that I was struggling with. What I now understand with the benefit of hindsight is that the situation was compunded by an old rib injury, that meant the chest pain, when it came on was exactly where I would worry it would be if it was a problematic heart. 

What was actually happening was that I was anxious, which in turn caused me to be tense, really tense. That tension was not only mental, I was literally holding myself in constant tension. Even now I can think back on how I could focus on relaxing and feel that physical tension relax... for literally two seconds before I'd tense up again. 

The old rib injury and the muscles around it, was simply the breaking point of that physical tension, the muscles would get so tired from being contracted for long periods that they would ache, or even cramp. 

I didn't know any of this at the time, so I assumed I was having a heart episode, which caused more tension and made things even worse. 

At no point when badgering the doctors did the words stress and anxiety get mentioned. Instead I think the fact that I was athletic blinkered the doctors into thinking it was a physical problem. 

So whilst everyone is individual, I would encourage you to explore and appreciate the mental angle to all this, as well as thinking about any potential injury, either recent or historic, that may be influencing your situation. 

Good luck with it all, and remember, if you've been checked out and given the all clear, you are not having heart related issues! 

 

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Bigmarlow replied to Jimmy Ray Will | 4 years ago
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Many thanks for your reply. 
 

it's very reassuring. I do suffer with anxiety and believe that it is a factor. I'm also an ex rugby player and go gym a lot so maybe it could be an old injury not that anything comes to mind but I guess you never know if you've done something and it keep flaring up as you say. 

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pablo | 4 years ago
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I looked into this recently because at this time of year with hayfever I get what I think is sports induced asthma as it's so hard to prove haven't seen a doctor as I'm not a pro and am certainly not applying for a TUE. When I get to around my max heart rate I really struggle and can't sustain for more than a few seconds because my chest tightens any other time of year I'm fine.
The other thing I think related to a relative high heart rate is fatigue if I do a ride at 160 average Vs 150 funnily enough I'm shagged for the rest of the day for very little gain in speed do that day after day and something's got to give. My conclusion is I'm try to hard for my relative fitness.
You can lower your heart rate for the same effort but it takes time (months) and means riding to a much lower heart rate and hence much slower but the body will adapt and the speed will come back.
I did a fun experiment last week for one of my common routes (40 miles) I checked my last average heart rate set that as my max heart rate (@157 start soft pedaling basically) and then set my average target as 147 and stick to it. My average speed was lower but only .3mph and I felt amazing after the ride far less fatigued. It was fun because you had the mental capacity to think about where you could gain free speed eg brake later, more aero etc. I want to do it again because I can gain even more.
I don't want to ride like this for the rest of the summer but will mix it in for 1 or 2 rides a week and then really work on it over the off season. I guess this is essentially traditional base training

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PRSboy replied to pablo | 4 years ago
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Go a bit slower and end up a lot less tired... makes sense when you think about the exponential increase in wattage necessary to increase your speed the higher it goes.  Conversely, if you are going like the clappers, back off quite a lot and your speed won't actually drop as much as you expect. 

 

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jasecd | 4 years ago
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It does worry me sometimes - I'm 38 but have hit 193 when pushing as hard as I can up a steep climb, which is way above my theoretical max.

Most of the time a hard ride will see me averaging around 160bpm and a gentler recovery ride around 125. My resting heart rate is around 60.

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PRSboy | 4 years ago
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Heart rate is a personal thing... dependent on many things... temperature, caffeine intake, alertness etc.  For what its worth, over the last few years (now 47) I work on the basis of 150-155ish being 'sweet spot' and where I spend most of my time on a 1-2hr ride, 160 threshold, 130-140 endurance.  120-130 pootling.  I will see 170-180+ on a hard climb, pushing.  Resting HR is around 45. 

I've never once had a 'chest pain' that worried me, other than normal breathing discomfort.  

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peted76 | 4 years ago
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Cyclists and heart issues go hand in hand. Get tested again, be insistent that they do a diagnosis. GP's are not specialists, you should not have chest discomfort. Go back to your GP and insist on getting referred for more tests until they can be sure what the issue is.

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Bigmarlow replied to peted76 | 4 years ago
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Thanks. 
 

ive had in depth heart scans, several bloods took, ecgs you name it ive had it lol. 

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Richard_pics | 4 years ago
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Its quite subjective.

Me & my buddy are similar in size and weight, and speeds etc, but he averages 140bpm, and i average 160bpm odd. I have peaked at 198bpm when giving total beans.

My resting is usually 62bpm

Any chest pain should be concerning!

 

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kil0ran | 4 years ago
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Any chest pain should be investigated, particularly if it comes and goes with exertion. You should feel breathless but not tight-chested.

If your GP has checked you out recently then the best test is to see how long you take to recover (get your breathing back under control) after a short sharp climb. That's basically what they'd do with a stress test in hospital.

As a chronically overweight and unfit MAMIL I average HR of 140bpm-ish on a typcial ride (10-15 miles), and peak in the high 170s. Resting HR is high 60s. After a hard short climb I can get my breath back reasonably quickly. For me my limiting performance factor is definitely breathing, rather than power or HR.

 

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Bigmarlow replied to kil0ran | 4 years ago
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It doesn't come and go with exertion it's something I get on and off. 
 

what average speed are you riding at? 
 

after a hill climb my heart rate can hit 170-180 on the climb but after a few minutes of completing the climb it will drop back down to 140 or lower depending on riding style. 

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kil0ran replied to Bigmarlow | 4 years ago
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That sounds very familiar to me. Short sharp typical English climbs - say 400 yards ranging from 5 to 10% - will easily get me up to high 170s and breathless. As long as it's flat off the top I've recovered usually within a couple of minutes and no longer breathless.

At my best average speed for a 45 mile mixed ride would be around 17mph. I'm around 20st and 5'11". For that sort of riding I'll sit around 130/140bpm. Pretty much as soon as I start off from home, easy pedalling, I'll be around 120bpm. Obviously I'm not built for climbing! 

Due to a prevalence of heart conditions in my family I've been assessed several times over the years, usually with a stress test, ecg, and ultrasound. Never found anything untoward other than being overweight except that in a stress test my recovery is longer than it should be. One cardiologist said I had blacksmith/labourer genes, not designed to sit behind a desk all day  1

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efail replied to kil0ran | 4 years ago
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I'll be interested to communicate with anyone who responds to this. I'm 'under' the doctor at the moment, and waiting to see a cardiologist. (long waiting list) I have had a bit of an ache in my chest for ages, left side. Cardiogram, Xrays, bloods, etc clear. They've put me on a drug for acid reflux, while I wait to see the cardiologist, to see if that is the problem, causing 'heartburn', which I'm a little skeptical about. I'm 67,  fit,  low resting heart rate (44)and not overweight. I'm particularly interested in anyone who may have been prescribed Lansoprazole, if they are willing. I don't know how to do this privately.

I don't worry about my heart rate when I am riding, but I do use it as a guide, especially on long climbs

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Bigmarlow replied to efail | 4 years ago
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This sounds very familiar to myself but I'm a 34 year old male ex rugby player. 
 

ive also had all the tests done and been reassured I'm ok but it does make me very anxious which also doesn't help. I'm also taking Lansoprazole. They haven't put it down to acid but said it's worth trying them. It had eased off a lot but then it just seems to have come back again this chest pain but nothing different to before. Spoke to gp and they said it's nothing to be concerned about as I've had the tests etc 

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kil0ran replied to Bigmarlow | 4 years ago
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Can be a vicious circle if you're anxious about it Bigmarlow. I've had times where I've been convinced I'm having a heart attack or that there's something wrong, and find that the anxiety increases the pain. This is just resting around the house. One time when I had it I went out on the bike and smashed a bunch of really hard climbs near me, didn't die, pain had gone when I got home.

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efail replied to Bigmarlow | 4 years ago
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Thanks for the response, Bigmarlow and kil0ran. How long have you been on the drug? I can't say I've noticed anything in the two weeks I've been taking it. My 'discomfort' is to the left of the sternum, which is why what kil0ran says is interesting about costochondritis. The way things are at the moment makes us all think about our mortality.

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kil0ran replied to efail | 4 years ago
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My Dad's been on an equivalent to Lansoprazole for years, and has long-term heart issues. It's effective at controlling stomach acid but needs to be done hand in hand with diet changes - smaller meals, more frequent eating if you need to get the cals in, eating easy to digest stuff. That's the tough bit.

Have they ruled out costochondritis? That's usually a central pain but is very much a continuous ache, which reflux isn't.

 

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Bigmarlow replied to kil0ran | 4 years ago
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Thanks for the reply bud..

costochondritis is what the gp said that I had got. I've had this ongoing for over 2 years!! It's so frustrating. I guess it's just about thinking positively after having the tests etc and being cleared of any heart problems. It's just hard when you get the pain 

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Blackiegray replied to efail | 4 years ago
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Hey efail, 

I posted a comment about my experience if you want to take a look.  Part of my problems were with chest pains and I too was told that it might be acid reflux which I doubtful about as I never had some of the classic symptons, however, while I was waiting to speak to my doc a month or two ago, I did some looking online and I found that I had loads of symptoms for GORD/GERD, which is really symptomatic, I spoke to the doc, she agreed, and I got prescribed omeprazole which I believe is similar to what you're taking (I may be wrong), the other thing I take when I'm feeling any symptoms is Petac (gaviscon/boots own brand) acid relief, and that does the trick for a few hours.  Slowly the symptoms are going away and I'm cutting down on both of these after a few months so fingers crossed.

Take a wee look at the symptoms for GORD/GERD (depends where you come from) and see if any of those ring true and have a word with your GP (or not).  Most of the problems are in the not-knowing, once you find out what it is then the anxiety goes away and you can fix the issue.

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efail replied to Blackiegray | 4 years ago
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Thank you, Blakiegray. Just had my tea, curry, with a beer, three good strong 'real' coffees during the day. Put this next to a history of physical sport/abuse.  I've just looked up the GORD thing. Very interesting. I think that's what my tablets are for. I've still got 2 weeks worth before I make a judgement. I'm going to take the advice suggested.

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efail replied to Blackiegray | 4 years ago
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The Lansoprazole I have been on for a month, has definitely  worked. I'm a bit surprised, but pleased, as it has eased my worries. It seems, that acid reflux was/is the problem. Speaking to a doctor next week to see what the next step is. I suspect it will be 'wait and see'.

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efail replied to Blackiegray | 4 years ago
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A month in and the tablets are finished. Certain now it's the GORD/GERD thing. I wouldn't have believed it at the start, but nearly 5 weeks on after starting the tabs, I'm sure now. It's a relief, as I can almost discount heart problems. I'm glad I saw this post.

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Bigmarlow replied to efail | 4 years ago
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Glad to hear mate 

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