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Car crashes into building - please post your Local news stories

by David9694

Thu, Aug 13, 2020 18:26

Running this one up the flagpole to see who salutes...

I just don't remember this being a thing until recently, now it seems a daily occurrence.
Could it be that there are drivers not up to the job, too many cars; should houses be made to ride in single file, shops put on high viz, why are we putting newer buildings in danger like this, it's irresponsible.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/18649201.car-crash-wall-iceland-s...

'A Dorset Police spokesperson said: "Dorset Police was called at 12.48pm on Thursday, August 13, to a report of a collision involving a car and a wall outside Iceland on Poole Road in Bournemouth.

"It is reported that the vehicle was also in collision with a pedestrian, but they did not require medical treatment." '

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brooksby | 3 years ago

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I don't have the news items or photos to prove it, but my sister-in-law was once woken in the small hours. Looking out of her flat's window, she could see a car on its roof with all the neighbours coming out to gawp.

The driver had lost control, bounced off several parked cars, and rolled the car, then slid downhill along her road

But, hey, y'know, not even worth a notice in the local paper...

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19448909.another-van-becomes-stuck-l...

a concerned resident has said “something must be done”

Such as look? Be aware of the height of your vehicle?

"This hiv-viz, signed bridge failed to make itself more visible "

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Hungry driver sought.

David9694 | 3 years ago

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or, try driving to the conditions, it's not ever driver error, is it?

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/19454085.man-pregnant-woman-sent-spiral...

https://www.wsfp.co.uk/article.cfm?id=124600&headline

David9694 | 3 years ago

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“The car smashed everything, the front drivers side hit my thigh and pushed me up against the wall. I ended up on the floor about six feet from where I was stood, and I just remember glass flying all around me and shredding my legs."

A follow-up here to an earlier story. A reminder, even where there's no serious injury, of the lasting effects on people this kind of thing has.

The shop is on a small stretch of historic road, which has been diverted away to make a roundabout: hard to see how this can have happened. if you want to pay a Google Street visit, it's 928 Ringwood Rd, Bournemouth, BH11 8NL

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/19455950.bournemouth-hairdresser-...

hawkinspeter | 3 years ago

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Driver destroys traffic light: https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/driver-destroys-traffic-light-fishponds-5681008

Quote:

One passer-by, Michael Corbett, said police told him the driver would not be facing an investigation about the collision - and questioned the decision.

"The driver is OK, according to officers and tested for drink/drugs but they said 'accidents happen' and will not be prosecuting the driver," Mr Corbett tweeted.

"This accident happened in broad daylight and the driver was not driving into the sun. I take issue with your officers saying 'accidents will happen' and not intending to prosecute/investigate. The speed limit on this road is 20. What is your official policy on this?" he asked.

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-57934076

Medical episode leading to six people being taken to hospital. Hit the pub wall too.

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Car crash outside Marks and Spencer in Ferndown

One witness told the Daily Echo: “The impact caused a lot of damage to the car. The police and ambulance got there really quickly. They added: “If the bollards hadn’t been there, I think the car would have gone straight through the shop entrance.”

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/19462417.car-crash-outside-marks-...

David9694 | 3 years ago

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you're not even safe mid morning from drunks

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/19466484.cyclists-injured-driver...

stonojnr | 3 years ago

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Must be one of those robot cars as this one doesn't even mention a driver
https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/traffic/ipswich-car-crashes-into-feli...

You have to be getting that road spectacularly wrong, to have driven into that by mistake.

stonojnr | 3 years ago

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Another one from Ipswich https://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/traffic/st-matthews-street-ipswich-co...

andystow | 3 years ago

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A view from the inside.

https://youtu.be/EyndEYe0ekk

"Medical episode" of course.

ktache | 3 years ago

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Car crashes into home and attended by fire service on this evening's BBC2's Yorkshire Firefighters.

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19480155.man-arrested-car-crashes-cl...

good job it did land on its roof.

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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Beat this !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-58077099

andystow | 3 years ago

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https://nypost.com/2021/08/03/car-crashes-into-kitchen-of-queens-house/

Ticks a few boxes: BMW, no license* plate, driver fled.

* hey swldxer, this in the US

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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I did post the original somewhere in road.cc

https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19381160.spinnaker-pub-crash-colches...

1 killed a few injured after driving into the pub. Driving at 37-43 in a 30 and 'blacked out'. Banned for 2 years

Today it is https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19494846.colchester-fatal-crash-man-...

Caught again and no licence or insurance but not immedaitely jailed to protect the public.

peted76 | 3 years ago

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This is an absolute beauty!

and on the BBC no less... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-58170234

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Road.CC, please help us celebrate a year of cars crashing into things (and generally being in places they shouldn't) by sorting out the ordering of the posts - not even going newest first brings up the newest posts.

David9694 | 3 years ago

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here's a a sad story - but for once, a driver (unlicenced, uninsured) showing some remorse after coming off the road and hitting a tree.

https://www.kentlive.news/news/kent-news/man-admits-killing-millie-green...

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Another New Forest pony death. There is now some talk of average speed cameras for the principal roads crossing the Forest. According to drivers, these things are an amazing cash cow for the police, so you'd think they'd have jumped at it years ago.

No doubt we'll be told how difficult and distracting it is to drive to a 40 mph limit (arbitrary, of course, probably put there by an unelected bureaucrat), especially with all those hazards about.

Two guesses for the make of the car involved. The poor stricken animal is pictured in the article. I think we may have passed it the following day.

An awful lot of these incidents seem to be hit and run, which I find really weird because what are you going to do with a car that now looks like this? Are you going to take it to the scrapyard that features in every 1970s cop series ever made?

https://www.advertiserandtimes.co.uk/news/man-due-in-court-after-pony-di...

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Apparently it's nice scenery along there...

This bloke is quoted half-way through the piece and talks a lot of sense, I.e. contradicts the journalistic "killer road".

Neil Greig, a road safety expert at IAM RoadSmart, says while highlighting accident blackspots is important, the issue goes deeper.

He said: "Ultimately there’s no such thing as a killer road as such, it is all about driver behaviour so it’s about the drivers themselves as opposed to the road.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/ashford/news/a2070-crash-victim-speaks-out-...

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Get in the sea.

David9694 | 3 years ago

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Bus shelter in Coombe Road, Salisbury damaged after crash

Damaged? Kids with marker pens do damage, this has been destroyed. The tone is casual - just another bus shelter demolished by a car.

while I'm on it, the bus company seem to be struggling with drivers, so if the service is already meagre, probably unreliable and now likely to not run at all, it just pushes more people towards cars...

https://www.salisburyjournal.co.uk/news/19516584.bus-shelter-coombe-road...

Awavey | 3 years ago

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One from Norfolk, the most surprising thing is they label it a car, least surprising barely any mention of the driver involved http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/car-crash-ludham-village-a1062-near-yarmouth...

David9694 | 3 years ago

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this pub doesn't appear to have a had the full crash through the walls treatment yet, but I thought the general attrition they experience from cars was worth highlighting.

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/gravesend/news/the-825-year-old-pub-beaten-...

Simon E | 3 years ago

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Another innocent tree just minding its own business...

It's 4pm on a Tuesday afternoon and one car hits a tree alongside a particularly wide part of the A49 east of Shrewsbury. How the f**k did they manage that?!?

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/shrewsbury/2021/08/17/two...

On 15 August Shropshire Fire & Rescue also recorded "1 hatchback car in collision with railings" in the town that required a callout.

0-0 | 3 years ago

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A driver had to be cut free from her car after it crashed through the wall of a bungalow, destroying the front of the house.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-58291853

Hirsute | 3 years ago

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https://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/19531969.driver-avoids-jail-falsely-...

Hits lampost

"Bhaskaran has six previous convictions for 17 offences including matters of dangerous driving and drink driving, for which he was given a community order with unpaid work and a 28 month disqualification

He was ordered to carry out 60 hours of unpaid work and complete a 30-day rehabilitation activity requirement."

That'll show him.

hawkinspeter replied to Mungecrundle | 3 years ago

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Mungecrundle wrote:

Many of these incidents are slightly comical in that someone did something stupid but fortunately no-one was seriously hurt. This one is utterly horrific. As a parent to young adults of the same age group it is my worst nightmare. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-57824359 If you think that cyclists lives are of unique low value to some perpetrators of our (in)justice system then think on this. The driver had been drinking and was driving at upwards of 120mph in a 40 zone. The conditions were treacherous following rainfall. The coroner deemed that the case did not justify a record of unlawful killing, and to quote; "But did the driving meet the test of the conduct of the driver being truly exceptionally bad? No."

I looked up "unlawful killing" and came across this PDF: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/law-sheets-no-1-unlawful-killing.pdf

It starts with

Quote:

Following the decision of the High Court in R (Wilkinson) v HM Coroner for Greater Manchester South District [2012] EWHC 2755 (Admin) the conclusion of unlawful killing is restricted to the criminal offences of -

Murder,

Manslaughter (including corporate manslaughter), and

Infanticide.

The conclusion of unlawful killing does not extend to the criminal offences of causing death by dangerous driving or causing death by careless driving: ibid. By analogy it does not extend to Health and Safety Act offences where death results. No reference should be made in an inquest to any of these offences or the elements of the offences (except occasionally where it is necessary to acknowledge their existence and to dismiss them as irrelevant).

Bad driving cases causing death may, therefore, only be regarded as unlawful killing for inquest purposes if they satisfy the ingredients for manslaughter (gross negligence manslaughter) or where a vehicle is used as a weapon of assault and deliberately driven at a person who dies (murder or manslaughter depending on the intent).

That suggest to me (with no relevant knowledge of law) that bad driving would only qualify if it was considered gross negligence manslaughter which is later defined as:

Quote:

The authorities, particularly R v Adomako [1995] 1 AC 171 (HL) (see Archbold
2016 at 19-111 and 19-122), show that a person commits the offence of gross
negligence manslaughter (at common law) where the following elements are
proved -

The existence of a duty of care (based on ordinary principles of negligence) owed to the deceased,

a breach of that duty of care,

the risk of death (not just the risk of serious injury: R v Misra [2005] 1CrAppR 21 [25] (CA)) was a reasonably foreseeable consequence of the misconduct: Reeves v Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis [2001] 1 AC 360, 393 (HL),

the breach caused the death, and

having regard to the risk of death involved, the misconduct was grossly negligent so as to be condemned as the serious crime of manslaughter.

I'm not sure why driving at over 100mph into a house without even braking doesn't qualify.

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