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Drivers and their problems

A new catch-all Tea Shop thread for those miscellaneous new stories that don't quite fit with parking, crashing into buildings or trapped/prisoners in their homes. 

If you're new please join in and if you have questions pop them below and the forum regulars will answer as best we can.

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Jogle | 10 months ago
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A27 closed near Chichester after truck rolls into ditch

Something needs to be done about these spontaneously turtling cars and lorries. Won't somebody think of the children?!

https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/24127644.a27-closed-near-chichester-truc...

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Hirsute | 10 months ago
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Barratt is worried about his family

Do not put your family in a small car.

Yesterday, my wife was driving my son to school and an oncoming delivery truck crossed the center lane and hit her head on — the driver had a seizure was going 40 mph. I am so thankful they are okay (and the other driver is too) and that we chose to buy a large vehicle.

"I am glad your family is ok. Wouldn’t it be safer if everyone drove smaller cars?"

Not realistic so no interest in playing that game

" What is this some SUV cold war arms race? "I'm going to buy a car even bigger than yours!"  "

After that is escalated

"When we had our third child I bought a Yukon. It’s very safe and built like a tank. "

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"Who needs an SUV when you can buy an ICV?! My children travel safely in a Stryker Infantry Carrier Vehicle. If the Stryker's 14.55mm thick steel plates don't offer enough protection an optional weapons station can obliterate traffic threats."

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""When we had our third child I bought an M1 Abrams. It’s very safe and built like a tank. We always had larger SUVs like Yukons which have no chance against mines and Anti Tank artillery. The lives of my children are too important to risk to another driver."

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"When we had our third child we bought a Komatsu 930E. It's very safe and bigger than both a tank and a F750. My children are very safe. Pedestrians can be wiped off the wheels fairly easily."

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"When we had our third child we bought a Crawler-transporter. It's very safe and bigger than either a tank, a F750 or a Komatsu 930E. My children are very safe. At a top speed of 1.6km/h, pedestrians have plenty of time to walk out of its way."

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"When we had our third child we bought a star destroyer. It's very safe and is very capable of destroying and earth tank or vehicle. My children are very safe. Pedestrians tend to run away in a state of alarm and fear so we no longer need to consider them at all."

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One person recommended a tank as it has better visibility

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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New 20mph signs in Herne Bay spray-painted by vandals amid residents’ rage over road scheme

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/herne-bay/news/20mph-signs-sabotaged-amid-r...

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DaiHoss | 10 months ago
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https://www.kentonline.co.uk/malling/news/empty-car-park-on-one-side-of-...

How dare they [checks notes] stop people parking on their own land

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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oh no! It's going to get worse:

Petrol and diesel owners to be hit hardest by new car tax rates

Vehicle Excise Duty (VED) is set to increase from April 1 🎻

https://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/news/motoring/petrol-diesel-owners-hit-h...

 

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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On the theme of congestion, population/ over-population seems to be a noticeable theme for drivers at the moment (with oh so many roadworks a close second). 

When drivers start to latch on to issues like this, it's always interesting because (i) it's largely cars, not people, that give you that oppressive feeling in the city/town (ii) there's usually some anti-immigration / racist schtick lurking behind it (iii) if it's suburban sprawl you're worried about, that too is largely created by cars.  Drivers of course assume that more people must equal still more cars. 

Drivers are of course making their contribution to the issue at the rate of 4 or 5 people a day. 

 

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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First official review of the impact of Wales' 20mph law published

Millions of journeys in nine areas have been analysed

The mean speed difference in nine areas:

Lampeter: 24.1mph (-5.3mph)

Penrhyn Bay: 24.9mph (-6.1mph)

Llanrug: 26.6mph (-3.8mph)

Allt-yr-yn (Newport): 23.1mph (-3mph)

Pembroke Dock: 24.1mph (-4.2mph)

Newtown: 25.9mph (-4.4mph)

Tylorstown: 25.7mph (-2.8mph)

Torfaen (Cwmbran, Pontypool, Blaenavon): 26.5mph (-2.9mph)

Wrexham: 23.2mph (-4.7mph)

Overall weighted mean: 24.8mph (-4mph)

Natasha Asghar MS, Welsh Conservative Shadow Minister for Transport said: “These findings prove what a monumental waste of time and resources from the LabourGovernment the 20mph limit has been. “o sacrifice billions of pounds from the Welsh economy all for the sake of 4mph may satisfy Labour, but it is not a trade the Welsh Conservatives would be willing to make.

“On day one of a Welsh Conservative Government, this barmy policy would be scrapped, and common sense would prevail.”

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/20mph-wales-review-speed-lim...

I would assume that the figures show the real world effect of a drop in speed limits of 10 mph, so in Lampeter it was 34.1 mph before, hence all the driver crying. 

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brooksby | 10 months ago
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Not drivers, explicitly, but I'm reading between the lines on it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c513zzgd6ddo

Quote:

The bollards were installed using £400,000 from the government's Shared Prosperity Fund.

Zeina Chapman, from the What a Load of Bollards Group, previously told the council the obstacles had created a "spiritless strip" as well as claiming businesses were reporting "much lower footfall".

I would read that as "It would be far better if there were no bollards so people could park on the pavement there to just pop into the shops."  According to the photos, it has double yellow lines, but we all know how effective they are… 

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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Exeter 'human bollards' live in fear of death threats and poo through letterboxes

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-human-bollards-live-fea...

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Jogle | 10 months ago
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How did a car get there? Police probe 'unusual' crash

You can't even park your car in a tight spot without it making world news now!

I'm guessing it's an automatic

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-68288130

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stonojnr | 10 months ago
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Road closure causing 'desecration' of a village, journeys that took 5mins now take 20, oh the humanity !!!

https://www.eadt.co.uk/news/24135095.suffolk-road-closure-causing-desecr...

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David9694 | 10 months ago
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Man fined for littering after dropping parking ticket

Herefordshire Council said he had thrown down, left or otherwise deposited the penalty charge notice in a public highway.

The council gives out £140 fixed penalty notices for littering, which are reduced to £100 if paid within 10 days, but littering matters are taken to court for prosecution when defendants fail to pay.

https://www.herefordtimes.com/news/24128583.man-fined-littering-dropping...

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Jogle | 10 months ago
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Two crashes in a week see cars on roofs in North Petherton

So in six days two cars ended up on their roofs after crashing into parked cars outside a Tesco Express in Somerset.

Something must be done about this! Let's start a petition to ban parked cars and Tesco Expresses in Somerset.

https://www.somersetcountygazette.co.uk/news/24131856.two-crashes-week-s...

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SaveTheWail | 10 months ago
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Parking of (driverless) cars and campervans must take priority over prevention of coastal erosion:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cd1vv1yzdp7o

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wtjs replied to David9694 | 11 months ago
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Another driving tragedy and another Coroner not grasping the bull by the horns, so we will learn nothing

This is Audi A1 YH66 UTP pulling out from a school onto the main road 'interacting' with a mobile held in the right hand. No response from Lancashire Constabulary- the officer, if they ever think at all, no doubt thinking 'nothing happened, what's the fuss about'

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Jogle replied to David9694 | 11 months ago
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David9694 wrote:

Another day and the algorithm serves me up the Dorset Speed Cameras group. 

Imagine leading your life like this. 

Oh dear, I got sucked in and looked up that group. My favourite comments on that photo were from 'Dave" who starts off by saying that that road is already dangerous enough (I think he means that enforcing that speed limit in an attempt to make it safer will make it more dangerous, maybe that's because people will have to concentrate on their speed as well as their phone) but then follows it up by saying that roads aren't dangerous in themselves and it's the drivers that are the problem and we need more police...

Or am I missing a huge amount of sarcasm?

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David9694 replied to David9694 | 11 months ago
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well, Wayne here we are in unfamiliar Cannock - what could that be on the wall, just over your left shoulder? Unfortunately, there's meant to be another one on that post over your right shoulder, but that disappeared some time after November 2020. It's been a loading bay at least since 2009.

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ktache replied to David9694 | 11 months ago
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Paywall article.
But you'd think after the first incident he might attempt to avoid the potholes or at least maybe slow down a bit.

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David9694 replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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Great for toads, Mr Toads not so much (may I be the 94th person to say). 

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stonojnr replied to Hirsute | 11 months ago
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normal for Norfolk ?

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Jogle replied to David9694 | 11 months ago
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David9694 wrote:

I knew it all along: 

Fly-tipper caught dumping fridge landed with big fine

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/fly-tipper-caught-dumping...

You have to feel sorry for him, he had to drive while disqualified as no one else would fly-tip his fridge

But doesn't the headline show how little is thought of driving offences? And six months disqualification for driving while disqualified, that'll show him!

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polainm replied to Rendel Harris | 10 months ago
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It's the threat of AI in cars obviously. So many of these machines being reported as causing severe harm and death, presumably while the driver is somewhere else?

Mind you, clearly policing and media editors are also on a different planet...

Rendel Harris wrote:

Even by usual shoddy reporting standards, this is special: stupid boy, breaking his legs!

https://www.itv.com/news/tyne-tees/2024-02-13/boy-12-breaks-both-legs-in...

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brooksby replied to Jogle | 10 months ago
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Jogle wrote:

'Crazy car parking permit rules' means Banbury motorist can't park outside his home Am I missing something? They can't get two parking permits because both cars are registered to the husband and the leased car can only be registered in the husband's name. The council has said that they can have a second permit if they register one car in the wife's name. The husband says that they can't do that because they can't change the register keeper of the leased car. The car that doesn't have a permit is the car which is not leased. Surely the answer is to change the registered keeper on the non-leased car, get a second permit, park outside your home and not go to the newspaper? https://www.banburyguardian.co.uk/news/transport/crazy-car-parking-permi...

Dont you be coming on 'ere with yer "common sense"!  3

People do get very weird about being able to park in the public-not-private space outside their own home, don't they? Like people who own two or more cars (or two cars plus a commercial van that probably ought to stored at the depot) and yet move into a flat with only one designated parking space and complain about the lack of parking...

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hawkinspeter replied to David9694 | 10 months ago
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David9694 wrote:

Frome roads to be closed as schools to go car-free for children and parents

Frome is launching a School Streets trial to improve the safety and wellbeing of its young residents

https://www.somersetlive.co.uk/news/somerset-news/frome-roads-closed-sch...

Great, but don't let this become an obstacle to a more extensive  roll-out of 20 mph. "It's OK outside schools" is a containment strategy by drivers. 

Yeah, it's fine to run over kids if they're not too close to a school

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brooksby replied to Hirsute | 10 months ago
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Hirsute wrote:

Reminds me of that scene in the first Despicable Me film, with the woman in a compact, then a bloke in (IIRC) a SUV bullying her, then Gru in his silver supervillain car comes along  3

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David9694 replied to DaiHoss | 10 months ago
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Our Co-op gets co-opted as another primary school drop off / pick up zone. They've done two lots of resurfacing and in recent months and the manager is on Facebook apologising to parents about this.  

On the plus side, there seems to be a pact that drivers do not drive up the no through road the school is in. 

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chrisonabike replied to David9694 | 10 months ago
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I dug up an old 20mph comment thread to add the BBC version of that article (I never know who's copy-pasting who in the media these days) so folks are having at it there also.

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David9694 replied to brooksby | 10 months ago
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we can't bollard our way out of trouble on this but

It's only for a minute 

I've just got to nip in here

hazard flashers 

mouthful of abuse

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chrisonabike replied to David9694 | 10 months ago
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David9694 wrote:

Exeter 'human bollards' live in fear of death threats and poo through letterboxes

https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/exeter-human-bollards-live-fea...

This and ktache's comment got me thinking - would there be less uproar if the human bollards simply took it in turns to leave their car (BOLAS duly deployed) for "just a minute" in the appropriate blocking location(s)?  They'd need to switch around - because everyone knows that if something stays in one place on a road for too long (like a cycle hangar) that's also a crime against nature.

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David9694 replied to stonojnr | 10 months ago
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Sounds like nice cycling territory.

Struggling with the village shop angle - all that isolation should put takings up, not down?

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